Posted on Apr 19, 2016
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CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
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He/she are to be addressed as candidate. They are no longer enlisted and not a qualified officer yet that is why they wear WOC Then once they complete WOC then they can be addressed as mr....ms....
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1SG Vet Technician
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I think we should call them 'wocs'.
"hey, woc over here", "woc this way", and the ever popular "woc, with me"
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I've applied twice. Both times my proponent disqualified me based on technical issues. For example, the support Bn I was in did not have a company in its structure. I had a Major XO, and LTC CO. The XO did the "company" LOR. The packet was DQ'd for not having a company level recommendation
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CW2 Max Dolan
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Oh, I like the WOC thing! I was never a candidate. It was a direct appointment. One day it was "Staff Sergeant" and the next day it was "WHOOO!" Awhile later it was "Chief," and I still like that title.
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I did not know the used to do direct appointment
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CW2 Max Dolan
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Yep, it happened sometimes. I was a Staff Sergeant on the E7 list at the time. I just completed a Bachelor's Degree in my field, and applied for the warrant. It took about a year to go through. My first assignment was a Detachment Commander position in Germany. Great fun!
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Candidate "Last Name"
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What is the proper way to address a Warrant Officer Candidate?
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Active duty personnel are still called by their enlisted rank until they arrive at WOCS and then they are called "candidate" until they graduate. Now in the guard, when they get accepted, they pinned on the WOC rank and are called candidates at their unit until they arrive at WOCS and throughout the WOCS training. If there any NG Warrants out there, please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm active duty, but I know the guard units in Michigan perform the practice that I just mentioned.
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CW2 Legal Administrator
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Thank you for clarifying this! I was just about to bring it up because it is the same for enlisted AGR's selected as what you state for active duty personnel. NG same as Reserve Component.
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SSG James Bloodworth
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Active reserve or guard. There is only one set of regulations. The confusion may lie in that some guardsmen dont actually know the proper way to address a WOC candidate, so they fall into a wrong habit. That being said, most National Guardsmen are just a professional as most active members. We are three parts to the same army.
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CW4 Angel C.
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"Candidate" Refer to AR 600-20 Table 1-1
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CW4 Jeff Cross
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I commanded the RC-WOCS for Arizona and was asked this question quite often. Once the soldier becomes a Warrant Officer Candidate, they are addressed as Candidate "Last Name." Some of the units insist in addressing the WOCs by previous rank, which is not IAW AR 600-20.
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CW3 Air and Missile Defense (AMD) Tactician/Technician (PATRIOT)
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While the candidate is still in the unit its whatever their current rank is. Once they are in Ft. Rucker, AL, then they are referred to as candidate (insert last name). i.e I don't think its cool to refer to a now selected MSG as candidate unless you are already a Warrant Officer.
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CW2 Airdrop Systems Technician
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This was my concern as I feel as though the "Candidate" earned their highest ranks as a NCO but wasn't sure what the AR said. And research showed that OC and Warrant Candidates are addressed as candidates until they obtain their Commission. But it seems almost disrespectful to address my mentor (presently E-7) as Candidate.
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CW4 John Karl T.
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The proper address is "Candidate" and last name. Some of us acquired "nick names" during preflight days at Fort Wolters (Yes, I'm old). One of our classmates became "Candidate Clang-bird Hamby". Twist my arm and I will tell the story.
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My apologies, Sir, but I am now interested in a couple of things 1. Where in God's Creation was FT Wolters and 2. I politely request that you share the story on how you acquired you Nom Leguire!
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CW4 John Karl T.
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1. Fort Wolters was the Primary Rotary-Wing Training Base from 1956 to 1973 and was located on the East side of Mineral Wells, Texas. It's entrance was on US Hwy 180 & Washington Road. Candidates endured one month of Preflight and three months of Primary Helicopter Training before moving on to Fort Rucker for Advanced Rotary-Wing Training. Early classes trained with OH-58D helicopters. In 1963 they began using the TH-55A aircraft. Back in the day preflight training was primarily to train you how to be a Warrant Officer and give you some basic info on types of additional duties (mess officer, supply officer, motor officer, etc.) you might have in your unit of assignment. All during your training (particularly during preflight) we were subject to intense harassment from TAC Officers, TAC NCOs and Senior Candidates. In the day this was typical of many military schools such as OCS, Rangers, Special Forces, and NCO academies. The intent was to teach the trainee to operate under pressure. In my day we were subject to varying degrees of harassment all the way through flight school and were not appointed as Warrants until graduation. Well, there you have some back ground.
2. Now for the story of "Clang-Bird". During preflight training we were in classroom for 50 minutes of each hour followed by a ten minute "break". Our breaks were conducted in formation outside of the classroom in all weather (except thunderstorms). We would "fall out" on the double, report attendance and then be commanded "At ease, smoke if you gottem!". While "At ease" one had to keep your right foot in place. One day while we were having a break, TAC NCO SSG Davis stuck his head out of the classroom door and shouted at one of my classmates, "Candidate Hamby!" Hamby, a good old boy from the Alabama National Guard, replied, "Sir, Candidate Hamby, Sir!". SSG Davis continued, "Candidate Hamby, what is a Clang-Bird!" "Sir, Candidate Hamby. A Clang-Bird is a large metallic bird who flies in ever reducing concentric circles until he finally flies up his own ass with a resounding CLANG, Sir!"
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CW3 Automotive Maintenance Warrant Officer
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Once they have been accepted they are a WOC. Regardless of Active duty, Reserves, or National guard. And should be addressed as candidate.
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CW3 Reclined In My Chair
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Edited 9 y ago
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I was already retired when WOCS became a way of life for non--aviators.

But, I thought I would add this, I received my appointment while I on my first tour in RVN. My wife wrote me and said, "i knew what ranks were called by when you were a Private, Specialist, Corporal and Sergeant, but I don't know what Warrant Officers are called." Even though she ask a couple of times, I never answer her.

My first assignment out of RVN was as a detachment commander in the 3rd ID in Germany. Again my wife ask, "Please tell me what Warrant Officers are called?" Then are super intelligent Seven year old daughter said, "Warrant Officers are called, Mister, dad would be called Mister Love."

I asked Tammilyn how she knew that, She said, "I looked it up in the dictionary."

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