Posted on Jun 6, 2017
What is the regulation that governs the types of locks that can be used for securing high value property?
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AR 190-11 - Physical Security of Arms, Ammunition, and Explosives (AA&E)
AR 190-13 - The Army Physical Security Program
AR 190-51 - Security of Unclassified Army Property (Sensitive and Nonsensitive)
In AR 190-51 Appendix D, has the information that you're likely looking for. Since these items are not weapons, ammo, or explosives, I doubt you'll need 190-11 but you will need the other two. 190-13 states that a physical security program needs to be in place, therefore you will probably also want to look for an SOP in your unit regarding physical security.
As I mentioned in my other comment to your own response, the commander can sign a memorandum that will allow the storage of high value items in the arms room. I will get you an example of one tomorrow, sir. As a lower enlisted, I haven't done a FLIPL and I do not know the process but if I'm not mistaken, part of the FLIPL is coming up with a plan to help prevent the event from occurring again in the future. I think storing these items in the arms room would be a great plan since there is a lot more security that goes into it. Once again, I'll get an example of the memorandum tomorrow and I hope I have been of assistance.
AR 190-13 - The Army Physical Security Program
AR 190-51 - Security of Unclassified Army Property (Sensitive and Nonsensitive)
In AR 190-51 Appendix D, has the information that you're likely looking for. Since these items are not weapons, ammo, or explosives, I doubt you'll need 190-11 but you will need the other two. 190-13 states that a physical security program needs to be in place, therefore you will probably also want to look for an SOP in your unit regarding physical security.
As I mentioned in my other comment to your own response, the commander can sign a memorandum that will allow the storage of high value items in the arms room. I will get you an example of one tomorrow, sir. As a lower enlisted, I haven't done a FLIPL and I do not know the process but if I'm not mistaken, part of the FLIPL is coming up with a plan to help prevent the event from occurring again in the future. I think storing these items in the arms room would be a great plan since there is a lot more security that goes into it. Once again, I'll get an example of the memorandum tomorrow and I hope I have been of assistance.
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It seems RP will only allow me to attach pictures so I can't put the Word Doc on here but here's a quick screen shot of the storage of high value items memo example.
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CPT Tom Monahan
PS: Have them show you the ref, policy or whatever. Don't them pull a what they think it should be answer out of their backside. If the state a specific lock(s) these should identify it with an NSN and the authorization document (like CTA-50) for your unit to have it.
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With out too many details, my BN had some optics "walk off" and I am the IO for the FLIPL and I can't seem to find the correct regulation regarding the management of weapons optics. Would it be AR 190-11 or something else? These optics weren't sensitive items...they were "high value", though. What regulation governs the security of high value property?
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Sir, I'm going off the top of my head here so I'm not 100% sure right now. I'll get back to you. If I'm not mistaken though, AR 190-11 is security of arms, ammo, and explosives (AA&E). You might want to take a look at AR 190-13, which is the Army Physical Security Program. As far as I know, items need to be locked behind a DA approved lock which you can get from your unit supply. And as a suggestion (preventive measure) for the future, the Commander can sign off on a memorandum to allow storage of high value items in the arms room. I'm using my phone right now so I can't access all the regs on APD. I'll double check when I get to work tomorrow and give you an update. Hope this helps, sir.
-Unit Supply and Armorer.
-Unit Supply and Armorer.
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PFC (Join to see) - Thank you for all your help! With that kind of knowledge and "can do" attitude, you'll make a fine NCO some day. Keep at it!
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You would have to look at the Property Book and find the CIIC (Controlled Item Inventory Code) DA Pam 710-2-1 or AR 710-2 and the old PBUSE EUM: will tell you what the corresponding codes mean
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