Posted on Feb 14, 2015
What is the significance of a reflective PT Belt? Is it a sign of risk aversion? Who really wore these in a combat zone?
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We have all seen them. Some other things to consider. What do other branches think? I never belonged to a unit that wore them in a combat zone; the units that did wear them in combat seemed to also suffer from poor leadership, morale, and compentance (not individual but as a team).
Where would we be without these reflective belt over our camo?
Survey is who worn them in a comabt zone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmcBBwnjo5U
We have all seen them. Some other things to consider. What do other branches think? I never belonged to a unit that wore them in a combat zone; the units that did wear them in combat seemed to also suffer from poor leadership, morale, and compentance (not individual but as a team).
Where would we be without these reflective belt over our camo?
Survey is who worn them in a comabt zone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmcBBwnjo5U
Edited 11 y ago
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I think there needs to be another option. I wore it under something so I could produce it only when absolutely necessary, and not look like a tool.
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Personally I feel that the reflective belt was a result of field grade officers and Senior NCOs to operate their air conditioned Non Tactical Vehicles in something other than a fully lit, day light environment.
As bad as that sounds I have not had a close call with a tactical vehicle yet, they have ground guides and are big and operated with care. We had a few people run over by NTVs and one killed. Most NTVs are in the possession of senior personnel, so I shove the blame on them.
Really I spent the first 12 years of my career in light and noise discipline an never saw or heard of people getting run over, but you put civilian cars in the mix and people think they are back on the block.
I am way to junior to recommend replacing all NTVs with four gator type vehicles of some description for safety and economy terms.
As bad as that sounds I have not had a close call with a tactical vehicle yet, they have ground guides and are big and operated with care. We had a few people run over by NTVs and one killed. Most NTVs are in the possession of senior personnel, so I shove the blame on them.
Really I spent the first 12 years of my career in light and noise discipline an never saw or heard of people getting run over, but you put civilian cars in the mix and people think they are back on the block.
I am way to junior to recommend replacing all NTVs with four gator type vehicles of some description for safety and economy terms.
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Although I never wore one I did receive a ticket in KAF in 2010 for not wearing a PT while in my ACUs. Someone looking for an NCOER/OER bullet can say they increased safety but making Soldiers look like morons wearing the belt in a combat zone.
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MAJ (Join to see)
It was for 20 or 25 dollar ticket. I was only on ground for a few hours before heading back to Helmand. They said they needed my commanders name and I gave him my brigade commander's name and asked them to please tell the 4BCT/82ND commander about a ticket for no PT belt and then left. I never heard about it again so I guess it was taken care of.
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SFC Rodrick Carter
In Afghanistan we would accompany the ANA to the range. The ones who could hit the 25 meter zero target were considered their snipers.....lol
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Well I was not in combat, never saw PT belts in uniform except ruck marches at night, but to safely say this way...
"Did you see the isis photo of them in our jarhead uniform?" I say that way to prove point, " tell terrorist undercover as one of us, he's a jarhead and put your arm around him! " Your friends now, a real Marine would stomp your head in!! The PT belt is US Military marker to avoid civilian and terrorist interlopers causeing problems..
" as Johnny Cochran ," if it don't fit you must aquit (or accuse in this case! )
"Did you see the isis photo of them in our jarhead uniform?" I say that way to prove point, " tell terrorist undercover as one of us, he's a jarhead and put your arm around him! " Your friends now, a real Marine would stomp your head in!! The PT belt is US Military marker to avoid civilian and terrorist interlopers causeing problems..
" as Johnny Cochran ," if it don't fit you must aquit (or accuse in this case! )
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SPC Larry Buck
Don't know,
Sadly ever notice how they are trained and supplied also the tactics used?!?
Familiar looking
Sadly ever notice how they are trained and supplied also the tactics used?!?
Familiar looking
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Had to wear one one for the little over a month I rotted on BAF. I completely agree with the statement about the connection to PT belt use and leadership and quality of unit.
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Oh! I misunderstood that. I thought it said "radioactive" belt!
Now that I think about it, they're both pretty stupid. One's a little more obviously stupid than the other...
Now that I think about it, they're both pretty stupid. One's a little more obviously stupid than the other...
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I voted on a technicality.
Reflective Belts weren't a "thing" when I was still in. If we had organized PT during the hours of Dark (Dusk, Dawn, or accompanying Twilights), we had to carry flashlights and the lead/tail people had to wear roadguard vests, when on the main roads.
If we did a BN hike, the lead/tail guys had the vests on, just so we knew they were.
I do not recall ever wearing them in Kuwait.
Reflective Belts weren't a "thing" when I was still in. If we had organized PT during the hours of Dark (Dusk, Dawn, or accompanying Twilights), we had to carry flashlights and the lead/tail people had to wear roadguard vests, when on the main roads.
If we did a BN hike, the lead/tail guys had the vests on, just so we knew they were.
I do not recall ever wearing them in Kuwait.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS It is mostly an Army thing, from my understanding. If you take away the over-bureaucracy from the Army, it will improve its efficiency by 50%, if not more, much like our government. You can say that the Army is a mini version of the government.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
SFC (Join to see) Well, that's really how the Army wins wars. The Army moves in, and all of a sudden you have two governments competing for control of an area. The Army has been a bureaucracy longer than most other countries have been countries. They don't stand a chance. Army will just double down. Heck, look, we're still in Germany & Korea.... we're not gonna move out. Like ticks on a dog!
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I have gone and read the comments and got the idea that they are like a the cone of shame for a dog. Lol yes the belt is good for doing pt this is why it started out being called a pt belt not a fix all for all uniform issues
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I was lucky enough to be one of the few Air Force guys stationed with Marines at Al Taqqadum in Iraq. They didn't wear their PT while I was there, so I didn't either.
I did have to wear it during the few trips to Balad and when I rotated out through Kuwait. It still makes absolutely ZERO sense to me that you'd wear a PT belt in theater.
I did have to wear it during the few trips to Balad and when I rotated out through Kuwait. It still makes absolutely ZERO sense to me that you'd wear a PT belt in theater.
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I get it if you are in motorpool with lots of traffic or at the port off loading a ship.
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Maj Matt Hylton
I will say that I did think they were useful while I was stationed in Alaska. PT belt wear was mandatory during the winter up there whenever you were outside. This was actually helpful during the dead of winter when we only got ~2 hours of sunlight.
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