Posted on Nov 24, 2015
What is your opinion? Should new soldiers wear multicam issued on a deployment if they haven't deployed? or wait until late OCP is issued?
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As someone who was issued multicam when I deployed to Afghanistan, personally I don't care, but there are those who think since these soldiers did not deploy they shouldn't wear multicams, they should wait for the OCP issue in FY19
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The uniform is approved, with all the myriad variations and it's going to be like that until 2019. Leaders who are nitpicking and forbidding things that Big Army has already approved clearly have too much time on their hands and not enough work.
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Unless I'm mistaken we have right shoulder patches that show who we deployed with. Personally I try to look at all Soldiers as great Americans regardless of a patch or mulitcam. Happy Thanksgiving!
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I whole heartedly agree with you but there are a lot of people who feel differently then you and I.
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>..a lot of people who feel differently then you and I.
But this is silly. If following regs, then who cares who get butt hurt - they are wrong. Regs are regs. Simply and plain.
But this is silly. If following regs, then who cares who get butt hurt - they are wrong. Regs are regs. Simply and plain.
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CPT Pedro Meza
SGT (Join to see) - Regs over ride silly feelings, or as my Old drill Instructor would say drop and give me 50 or 100 until you feelings don't hurt any more; Old Army.
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It is an authorized uniform, so why a busybody has time or energy to bellyache about this is beyond me.
Get a life, people.
Get a life, people.
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If the regs say they can wear them and as long as they are wearing them properly, then those that have issues will just have to continue to be butthurt.
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While technically, you are correct, if the multicam wearer does not outrank the butthurt individual, we both know how that's going to go.
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The issue that comes up with that is some clothing and sales stores haven't recieved anymore ACU's so soldiers with unserviceable uniforms are buying multicams so they have a serviceable uniform
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Wear the uniforms that you are permitted to wear, because a cohesive force is more important; remember the purpose of a uniform is team unity.
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It's the current issue uniform, why shouldn't they wear it? Are they going to make them wear PT gear everywhere instead?
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I have never deployed. However, I wear multicams as a way to assimilate to the unifrom that my unit is wearing. They authorized and put out that we are to be in the same(ish) uniform, being the new OCP. So I got my multicam from my father. He gave me the set that he got from his last deployment that he never wore. If people are making a fuss about it, then they may be politely reminded that what I wear, assuming it is neither offensive, or unauthorized, is none of their business, and that I am an adult capable of making my own wardrobe decisions. My clothing allowance had to go to my daughter, so I cannot afford the OCP just yet. However, having been given multicam form my father, I am able to be in a like uniform to the rest of my unit.
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Follow the regulations which govern the uniform swap and worry about things that matter
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Just so everyone knows I PERSONALLY DON'T CARE, this is a post of opinions I think soldiers should wear whatever the hell they want as long as it's authorized and in regulation
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MSG (Join to see)
Well, I believe the ones that think these soldiers should have been deployed before wearing multicams are clearly narrow minded individuals that are for one not NCOs and two not professional. If those guys that are wasting time nitpicking this they clearly have too much time on their hands and should be doing some area beautification... Just a thought
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As so many have already said... Butt Hurt and Status seem to be the driver of this issue. I'd rather wear the DCU myself... But I am old like that.
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This Uniform and patch situation has gotten beyond silly. Neither of these items stop bullets or certify you as a commando. I see an overwhelming need for some to find any way or clause to be different. Just go back to rank on the shoulder or collar with no patches. In my opinion, these Soldiers are just trying to comply with guidance already set.
The reason recruits are getting the new camo is bc it's an upgrade over the old UCP. The new pattern was not made to give bragging rights to those who have a deploymemt patch.
Just pointing out the obvious...
Just pointing out the obvious...
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ACU's but some soldiers who mobolized were issued multicams but eneded up getting cut from the deployment, Soldiers withave eXtra multicam uniforms are handing them out to other soldiers who don't have them/were not issued them. Just an opinion post personally idc what soldiers wear these days as long as it is authorized and within regulation..
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SGT David T.
SGT(P) (Join to see) - I was curious, I have been out a few years and see both uniforms in my office. I agree with you if it's authorized, who cares?
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I only think it matters if the IR tab shows, my ACUs from Afghanistan the IR tabs are visible at all times and we were NOT able to wear them on garrison. Plus the uniform has a slightly pink look due to being fire retardant and looks really strange next to the normal ACUs.
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I was wearing a multicam set I bought from the local Ranger Supply shop and I believe, still, that it just is a better camouflage. My personal opinion is just simply this, wear what you have and as long as it is authorized, what is the big deal?
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Honestly doesn't effect me in the least, however when I see them I ask myself "why drop X amount of money on a uniform that will be out of regs in a few years, when you can wait a little longer and put that money towards the new uniform? That's just me though.
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The uniform is not the "badge of honor" for deploying. Why would or should someone care is. for me, hard to understand
Recognition for requisite and qualifying overseas deployment is why the Combat Service Identification Badge (and corresponding right shoulder patch) [Shoulder Sleeve Insignia - Former Wartime Service], exist.
If the uniform is authorized for wear, and conforms to the appropriate Mil-Spec, it should not matter if the soldier deployed or not.
As I understand the current guidance from DA, the variety of currently authorized uniforms are just that authorized for wear until the wear out date, and recent DA guidance has reaffirmed this point.
Again, just my opinion.
Recognition for requisite and qualifying overseas deployment is why the Combat Service Identification Badge (and corresponding right shoulder patch) [Shoulder Sleeve Insignia - Former Wartime Service], exist.
If the uniform is authorized for wear, and conforms to the appropriate Mil-Spec, it should not matter if the soldier deployed or not.
As I understand the current guidance from DA, the variety of currently authorized uniforms are just that authorized for wear until the wear out date, and recent DA guidance has reaffirmed this point.
Again, just my opinion.
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