Posted on Oct 25, 2016
What kind of challenges did you face transitioning to civilian work force and becoming a full-time student working on a Masters Degree?
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The toughest part...dealing with people who don't care about their job, being in the military we were always upheld to a standard and knew our place and what we needed to do to accomplish the mission...in the real world people don't care/don't do/barely put forth an effort in their job and get paid the same amount as you, while you can make waves and get ahead of them its a struggle when you get promoted ahead of your peers because you are goal orientated and they just complain that they've been there longer and should have gotten a promotion. Now the masters degree...not so much on my part but full time student/doing reserve drill/full time job to support a family was my situation after getting out of AD and an employer that doesn't understand drill time being mandatory to take off even after you present the schedule/school doesn't acknowledge drill time as being mandatory...#strugglesarereal
Overall not too hard just keep doing what you do and you'll eventually win...hopefully
Overall not too hard just keep doing what you do and you'll eventually win...hopefully
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Transitioning back to being a civilian wasn't a big issue for me--then again, I haven't completely left the Army behind as I am still in the Reserves--but going back to school is rough. Just making sure I could get my Post 9/11 benefits was an arduous process, so from that aspect I'd suggest working on getting your ducks in a row regarding your VA benefits.
Like you Sir, I'm going to the U of M for my Masters, but juggling school, even part time, plus work and family and my Reserve commitment doesn't leave much left over in terms of time and energy.
Good luck.
Like you Sir, I'm going to the U of M for my Masters, but juggling school, even part time, plus work and family and my Reserve commitment doesn't leave much left over in terms of time and energy.
Good luck.
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I am currently an Active Duty Transportation Officer. I am about a year out from the end of my contract and I am looking at changing career paths. Clinical Social Work is the route I am taking. I want to get ahead of the game and begin looking into all necessary requirements for my education as well as supporting my house hold (Wife and I/no kids). I am using the GI Bill to pay for school but my biggest question is employment during my time in school. Did anyone have a similar experience? I already have a pretty solid plan but I want to see if anyone, with similar experiences, had any obstacles they wish they knew about during the transition. I want to get as many angles as possible.
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The toughest part is time management. I am a full time student and full time federal technician and a National Guard soldier. If you are fortunate enough to have a job that allows flexibility for classes you will be fine. Be up front and honest to your employer and explain your situation and hopefully they will work with you. Also, do the same with your teachers. Doing both school and work while raising a family can be daunting but if you stay on top of assignments you should be fine.
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Yes I can definitely see that being a big factor. I actually have a number of different positions that have been offered, but unfortunately I am still a year out. That still allows me time to plan. I don't have any kids and my wife is a part time student so I'm not too worried, however, I appreciate the feedback with dealing with employers and professors. Coming off of active duty it is almost like having to retire your mind for a bit. You're so used to a set rhythm. I understand already that it's going to be rough as I go through school and balancing work but it is manageable. If you know any resources that helped you at all I'd be more than happy to hear them. The Minnesota National Guard is still an option for me to transfer to as well.
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CPT (Join to see) I think that we are self-limiting and with Educational Benefits, that is more of an incentive. I have an unrelated goal of learning 20 more additional languages. The problem is, I would probably soon afterwords. lol being 60 already.
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It's a tall order your asking for Army Transportation background, pay enough to support a household, switching career fields, and close into Campus. So this is what I would do since I have no clue what exactly your new career field does. Attempt to find a mentor in your new desired field that is already resident in MN. Look on the Mayo Clinic website for contacts for Physicians and maybe email, write or call some of them for ideas since your new field is probably something a Physician has to refer someone to, perhaps they might have heard of something in the Twin Cities just starting up. Another tack contact University of MN Career Center by phone and ask them for help. They might turn you down because your not a student yet (which is BS but how Universities operate.....very inhuman type of bureaucracy).
So here is one problem your going to run into. The switching careers on seperation from the Army business and you have no experience in a medical setting but you want a job to support your family. If you attempt transportation and they find out your career change goals.........do you think they are going to hire you for just 2-3 years? Probably not. So you need some HR help there on how to position yourself or what kind of job you can reasonably expect given your goals. What your doing can be done but you have to take care with the resume and interview and you might want to target maybe a Hospital or Health Insurance Chain that needs help with Logistics........not sure if that exists but it is where I would start.
I am originally from Wisconsin and went to college there. I think they have a reciprocal agreement with University of Minnesota where you can attend a University of Wisconsin Campus and it is the same as attending University of Minnesota. So you might want to ask about that and see if the agreement is still in place as it would give you more geographic flexibility at least.
Here is one route you could take that might work great. Have you thought about becoming an ROTC Instructor. When I went to UW system they had CPT rank ROTC Instructors teaching Military History and other courses right in the College / University. Not sure what the perks are there just mentioning because the CPT was Active Duty. Military History was an easy course too for a former SPC so you could probably teach it in your sleep. Interesting thing was my instructor (CPT) was also going to school for his Masters Degree. So there HAS to be an Army program like what your looking for.
Also since your attending a Graduate Program if you have not already done so you probably need to prep for and take a GRE test. Again you need to speak with University of Minnesota on that (if they require it and what score range they look for). If you can knock out the GRE test prior to leaving the Army that might be one less thing you need to worry about. Also, most Graduate Schools want you to meet with a Graduate Admissions Advisor to go over your undergrad transcripts and tell you what remedial courses you need to take prior to the Graduate School allowing you in. It's one more area you can do ASAP and before you get out to see what your total time in school will probably be (HINT: depending on your Undergrad courses it might be slightly longer than 2 years).
I don't know if I helped you at all but that's all I have in my head. I almost went and got my MBA so I went through some of this graduate school stuff. Unfortunately UT-Austin had serious problems at the time with their admissions procedure so that kind of worked out well because I decided I didn't need a MBA just needed to shift my skill set a little for a higher salary and I was happy.
So here is one problem your going to run into. The switching careers on seperation from the Army business and you have no experience in a medical setting but you want a job to support your family. If you attempt transportation and they find out your career change goals.........do you think they are going to hire you for just 2-3 years? Probably not. So you need some HR help there on how to position yourself or what kind of job you can reasonably expect given your goals. What your doing can be done but you have to take care with the resume and interview and you might want to target maybe a Hospital or Health Insurance Chain that needs help with Logistics........not sure if that exists but it is where I would start.
I am originally from Wisconsin and went to college there. I think they have a reciprocal agreement with University of Minnesota where you can attend a University of Wisconsin Campus and it is the same as attending University of Minnesota. So you might want to ask about that and see if the agreement is still in place as it would give you more geographic flexibility at least.
Here is one route you could take that might work great. Have you thought about becoming an ROTC Instructor. When I went to UW system they had CPT rank ROTC Instructors teaching Military History and other courses right in the College / University. Not sure what the perks are there just mentioning because the CPT was Active Duty. Military History was an easy course too for a former SPC so you could probably teach it in your sleep. Interesting thing was my instructor (CPT) was also going to school for his Masters Degree. So there HAS to be an Army program like what your looking for.
Also since your attending a Graduate Program if you have not already done so you probably need to prep for and take a GRE test. Again you need to speak with University of Minnesota on that (if they require it and what score range they look for). If you can knock out the GRE test prior to leaving the Army that might be one less thing you need to worry about. Also, most Graduate Schools want you to meet with a Graduate Admissions Advisor to go over your undergrad transcripts and tell you what remedial courses you need to take prior to the Graduate School allowing you in. It's one more area you can do ASAP and before you get out to see what your total time in school will probably be (HINT: depending on your Undergrad courses it might be slightly longer than 2 years).
I don't know if I helped you at all but that's all I have in my head. I almost went and got my MBA so I went through some of this graduate school stuff. Unfortunately UT-Austin had serious problems at the time with their admissions procedure so that kind of worked out well because I decided I didn't need a MBA just needed to shift my skill set a little for a higher salary and I was happy.
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Oh no. I would not possibly think about separating from the Army completely if that was my situation. I have been building my savings and clearing debt. By the time I would separate, Summer of 2018, I will be completely debt free and using my GI Bill for my Masters. I don't live a lavish life because that is not really my style. My wife also works and goes to school part time. I still have some time to plan and collect information so I am comfortable with what I have collected, so far, and what my mentors have provided me since meeting with them here. One of the individuals helping me is actually the head of behavioral health of the VA for the North-East Region and his counterparts as well. They have been immense wealth's of knowledge. As far as work I have plenty of different people willing to hire. I know it is going to be rough at first but that is a sacrifice you make when you decide to go to school full time and work. Still have plenty of offers for work on the table of plenty of managers with interest and I still have time before I separate. The Guard is still an option I am exploring and even looking at working with the HR section of the ROTC programs. I appreciate your feedback.
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The University of Minnesota also offers internship programs as part of their degree plan. The individuals who I have met on the deployment have also given me an abundance of information of work study programs that count as internships, but also provided me with contact information for clinics that can set me up for success.
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Jenn Moynihan
Are you still in the rotation of possibly having to PCS? There are a number of online programs as well. I've started one at Simmons College in Boston. Although I am in the area we have a number of people from all over the United States. And one of my classes there are five of us that have connections to the military. One is a veteran that works at the Brockton VA here in Massachusetts and 2 or 3 are spouses and are in the south at Bases.
This is a screenshot of our classroom. I know there are some programs where you don't even see the people but in this case we interact with each other kind of like "Hollywood Squares"
This is a screenshot of our classroom. I know there are some programs where you don't even see the people but in this case we interact with each other kind of like "Hollywood Squares"
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SPC Erich Guenther
CPT (Join to see) - One more smidgen of an input. I bought 100 shares 3M stock about a year ago for my retirement plan and it has been on a ROCKET TRAJECTORY upwards. Something to consider as well. They are doing something right.
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