Posted on Oct 13, 2014
What ONE incorrectly depicted thing pisses you off most about military movies?
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My question is really no more complicated than that.
For me, it is the rendering of the salute. Hands down. No second place. This pisses me off to no end!
In my opinion, this is THE most important of all military courtesies, and it should always be given with the most possible precision and exacting attention to detail.
FFS! It is something that is taught to every 'cruit in week 1 of basic training! It is perfected throughout training! In a military movie, this should be the EASIEST thing to get right!
It seems to me, that if an actor or actress can spend weeks or months learning hundreds, if not thousands of lines of dialog for a movie, they can at least spend an afternoon or a day, practicing with the advisor (there is ALWAYS an advisor who is a Vet or SM) on the set until they get it right.
I know there are bigger, or more obvious problems with some military movies. Weapons or uniforms or lingo that is anachronistic to the time period of the battle on screen...but DAMMIT, getting the salute wrong in any time period just frosts my shorts!
Usually, it's a fail with what I call the, "I'm shading my eyes from the sun" salute. Your f'n hand doesn't belong on your forehead like you're trying to watch the right fielder shag the fly ball! It belongs where you were TAUGHT to place it!
I find myself commenting out loud to friends, while watching movies that jack this up...they don't seem to understand why it pisses me off so much.
What does it for you?
For me, it is the rendering of the salute. Hands down. No second place. This pisses me off to no end!
In my opinion, this is THE most important of all military courtesies, and it should always be given with the most possible precision and exacting attention to detail.
FFS! It is something that is taught to every 'cruit in week 1 of basic training! It is perfected throughout training! In a military movie, this should be the EASIEST thing to get right!
It seems to me, that if an actor or actress can spend weeks or months learning hundreds, if not thousands of lines of dialog for a movie, they can at least spend an afternoon or a day, practicing with the advisor (there is ALWAYS an advisor who is a Vet or SM) on the set until they get it right.
I know there are bigger, or more obvious problems with some military movies. Weapons or uniforms or lingo that is anachronistic to the time period of the battle on screen...but DAMMIT, getting the salute wrong in any time period just frosts my shorts!
Usually, it's a fail with what I call the, "I'm shading my eyes from the sun" salute. Your f'n hand doesn't belong on your forehead like you're trying to watch the right fielder shag the fly ball! It belongs where you were TAUGHT to place it!
I find myself commenting out loud to friends, while watching movies that jack this up...they don't seem to understand why it pisses me off so much.
What does it for you?
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I love the movie "Armageddon". But I just shake my head at how one of the SPs goes up and tells a scientist that he needs to "relinquish his terminal", and then the SECURITY GUY sits down and starts typing and talking to the satellite! I've heard of cross training, but that is ridiculous!
Same movie, there's the scene where the AF general flies out to the oil rig in the South China Sea wearing his dress uniform-on a helicopter! What, he doesn't have a flight suit hanging in his closet?
Same movie, there's the scene where the AF general flies out to the oil rig in the South China Sea wearing his dress uniform-on a helicopter! What, he doesn't have a flight suit hanging in his closet?
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Sorry, but It doesn't bother me at all. Sure I will point it out when I see a poor attempt at a solute while watching a movie, but I am not going to get all butt hurt over it. I also point out other things like a grenade isn't going to cause that extreme of an explosion or no one is going to fly 10 feet backwards after getting shot with a hand gun. None of those things are going to piss me off. They are just movies, they are not actually saluting anyone of actual importance, so I don't truly care about how jacked up it is.
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CWO3 (Join to see)
Well, I guess mam you don't train like we did in 1972. I have a lot of actual Military veterans who are actors and they sometimes train the actors on what's real and what's not. When you lose your buddy next to you or your op has been over run, you begin to realize the importance of life and why you do it. I don't really care about how Hollywood Portrays our Military. I'd rather see our Military Commercials then a fake Military Movie.
James K.
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SPC Tonya Lovelace
You Sir, know nothing about me, so please do not assume to know how I trained. Of course we trained differently from 1972 to 2003 when I was in basic, would be different wouldn't it? You didn't train the same way soldiers from the 30's and 40's trained. And please don't suggest that I don't know what it is like to loose a buddy next to me. I am an actual Military Veteran. I have actually Deployed to both Iraq and Afghanistan, I have actually been fired at and returned fire. I am also actually very proud of my time in The Army. I don't understand what the point of your comment is? I also don't really care how hollywood portrays the military, which I thought was obvious in my original post. My point was it isn't something that should be important enough to actually piss people off. Calling me Mam is also unnecessary, I work for a living, Thank you.
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it is a movie.... it is for enteratinment purposes... i get more annoyed at people who point out things wrong in movies(all movies) once again i say its a movie enjoy it...
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LTC (Join to see)
I agree completely. Look at the movie Blackhawk Down. Many like to point out things like how the aviator helmets worn in the movie didn't come out until after the battle. Who cares? Just maybe, getting a bunch of helmets 10 years hold might have been difficult and didn't really matter with the story. I'm a tanker by trade, but I still love the A-Team movie even though you can't airdrop a tank, much less all the stuff they did. Enjoy the movie. If you are looking for something to be accurate, watch a documentary.
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King this is Banana, COME IN argghhhh............ I was a radio operator and every time I hear this I cringe. Just like over and out, this was used 70 years ago, but not today.
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1LT William Clardy
TSgt Phil Textor, you probably would have choked listening in on the (secure) squadron command net. I can't remember right now all the "cool" call-signs, but I do remember one of the troop commanders was Iceman (long before "Top Gun").
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Everyone is not Chuck Norris from the "Missing in Action" series or "Delta Force" Anything less simply won't do!
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CWO3 (Join to see)
Bad period. The portrayal of our Men and Women in Uniform don't need to have Hollywood portray us as the Big, Bad #ss Killers. Get over it. Every Conflict since WW1 had films of War. From there it was WWII, in Europe and the Pacific. Then Korea, Vietnam, PGW, and now the current ones. Actors are just actors. They can go home to their families, take hot showers, eat well to return to the movie set for another shot. But not the Men and Women in DOD. They don't come back the same. I once heard that a former NFL player said professional football was like being in combat. I disagree totally. The difference is he isn't being shot at, gassed at. and be demoralized by the same people who sent them in combat. I said enough. Thanks for Your Services to Our Country.
Semper Fidelis,
James K.
Semper Fidelis,
James K.
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the whole scenario where a fuel tank or something gets shot and blows up wich would never happen Â
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The way the hold there weapon. Spot it all the time. The unfamiliar way they hold/carry it or the way they aim, etc. No muscle memory built in, so the movements are not fluid or natural. After so many years as a 11B, you're weapon (and not just you're rifle), tends to become a second appendage. You carry it ALL the time. You eat with it, sleep with it, !@#$ with it, etc.
Also along the same lines, the way the wear there equipment. As if they are not use to it. I always also comment on the way people move while wearing a ruck. Again, no natural side to side kinda sway that comes natural from wearing it. Even carries over to when you are not wearing because you are just so use to walking that way.
That's my two cents for what it's worth.
Also along the same lines, the way the wear there equipment. As if they are not use to it. I always also comment on the way people move while wearing a ruck. Again, no natural side to side kinda sway that comes natural from wearing it. Even carries over to when you are not wearing because you are just so use to walking that way.
That's my two cents for what it's worth.
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They are NOT us. We can't hold them to our standard. I'm not saying that I don't get highly irked over misrepresentation. I just have to rationalize with myself that we're not professional actors, they are not professional ARMED FORCES!!! Huah! Anyway, I get most upset over stupid tactics myself. To be honest, I can't watch most movies that are military related.
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PO2 Chip Powell
LOL My dad was a Vietnam vet, every time we watched a movie, they did that in, he would count them and say 1,2,3 dead mother f@*ers.
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HAIRCUTS! as a Navy vet, it drives me batshit crazy to see dixie cups in movies with hair hanging out every where.
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When 5.56 blows up cars, or when that one guy goes off on his own and dose his own thing
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SGT (Join to see)
The bridge scene from Godzilla when the tanks are firing less than 50 feet from the buses, people right next to the barrels. No one goes deaf or even acts like there was just an earth shaking boom right next to their head
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