Posted on Feb 14, 2018
CSM Charles Hayden
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Beyond my utter shock and dismay at this latest school shooting, I ask myself why? Who failed “us”. why?

Do we need a ‘police state’ to moniter and report eveyone with an personality abberation?

Do too many of our citizens choose to look the ‘other way”’ rather than accept the responsibilty of reporting “deranged members of society”?

At age 12, in 1945, I was cleared to ‘fire at will’ on the farm. I possessed a 22 caliber rifle and the 410 shotgun arrived soon after.

Positive action is needed, your thoughts?
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MSG Mark Szyman
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There was a.rifle range at my middle school that was actively used by the middle school and high school rifle teams. It was not uncommon for a student to bring a riifle or shotgun to speech class. I'm sure that has all stopped.
The common thread to all these shooting is psychiatric medications and or people know what is going to happen but don't step up and drop a manhole cover on the idiot kid that has no clue as to the permanence of the piss poor decision.
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MAJ Doc Scheffler
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I don't think ANY part of our society is ultimately responsible for the shooting. As tragic as this was, it really is a rare event. People and children die daily in much larger numbers from car accidents, medical mistakes, you name it. This is much ado about nothing and is pushed as a political stunt to raise money for politicians. Neither party cares about gun rights. The GOP runs on it to raise funds and get elected, but never does anything positive about gun rights. The Dems run on it for the same reasons, but never do the evil things they promise either. The NRA would be broke if there were real gun rights in America. They fund raise on the issue, but then author bills in state legislatures that are bad. I guess if there is any cause and effect, it's the political deep state class on both sides that needs the issues to keep their positions.
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PO1 Jeffrey Pennala
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As a society we have become morally unanchored and are embracing the satanist credo of "do what thou wilt". Of course we are going to have aberrant violent behavior unleash its darkness upon us. The cries for "gun control" are not really about guns, they are crying for "violence control" but to enable that they would have to embrace moral behavior again, which they are loath to do. We are a hedonistic society now, sexually immoral, dishonest, self centered, without honor. Nations and empires fall when they fall into hedonism, debase their currency and debase their laws. I hope and pray we wake up and turn around before we fall into chaos which is what the lefties, socialist, ANTIFA, the main stream media, and their ilk want, so they can rebuild the nation in their socialist communist image.
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CSM Charles Hayden
CSM Charles Hayden
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PO1 Jeffrey Pennala I do agree, the question becomes How and Who can ressurect America from it’s current dismal state? Too many people cannot handle the numerous ‘rights’ afforded them during my lifetime. Non-conformity rights have turned out to be a curse on the Nation!
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PO1 Jeffrey Pennala
PO1 Jeffrey Pennala
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I am afraid we have traveled too far down that path, there will be push back from time to time slowing the spiral down the drain. Eventually the pain of their foolishness and the personal deprivation the hedonist socialist agenda brings. Stealing your neighbors wealth and sweat equity will only create non-productive neighbors and citizens, if there aren't enough producers everybody suffers except the despots who will rule over them. Venezuela and Nicaragua are prime recent examples. Poor decisions bring poor consequences that works on the personal, local and national levels. In all the cases the "people" asked for it believing the promise they can have everything by doing nothing. All we can do is those of like mind stay together watch each others backs and ride out the crazy, hopefully we can come out the other side intact.
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SGT Patrick Reno
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Why should the responsibility fall on society at all. The only person responsible for that shooting is the shooter himself. That is the biggest problem with our society today, is that no one takes responsibility for there own actions. It always has to be some one's fault but there's. .
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Col Brian Hadley Reed
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What "part of our society"? That "part" that does the SHOOTING...
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Capt Seavy Barefoot
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Our ability to bring swift justice to these killers does not exist. These people are not afraid of the consequences for their actions .Parents take away the cell phones, video games, and give them chores. Start early in life, expect results and demand compliance, maybe then we will begin to see change in our schools. Oh and don't even get me started on the state of morality and lack of father figures in our homes.
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CSM Charles Hayden
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Capt Seavy Barefoot Parents are too busy to discipline or engage their children except to complain about them not receiving full glory for any activity or participation
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CPL(P) Wheeled Vehicle Mechanic
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It's the parents that raise the new generation snow flakes.
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PO2 Mario Lofaro
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We failed ourselves... We allowed a rogue and out of control government to infringe upon our basic rights. These rights are also responsibilities. The First Amendment for example, has been misquoted and those misquoted lies have given way to laws that force the good and decent God fearing American to leave God out of our daily lives. The founding fathers knew that a God-less society deserves neither freedom or liberty or rights. Our responsibility is to our children who depend upon us to properly raise them in a JUDEO-CHRISTIAN Country. A country that doesn't bow down to every whim. A county where not everyone goes home with a trophy and only the winners do...
A country that understands that just because we are created equally does not mean we all get the same "piece of the pie" if we don't work for it. We failed ourselves because we have allowed leftist (commie, pinko, degenerates) to dictate policy which is opposite of what the One True God has shown us to be good and right and prosperous. What part of society is ultimately responsible for the shooting at that school or for any eleged shooting. The part that says weapons are bad, the part that has allowed our elected officials tell us what we can and can't do about being armed everywhere... The part of society that believes problems are better solved through big pharmaceutical companies. The part of society who sees themselves in the mirror and allows any tolerance for what is wrong. In short, all of us who just sit back and let things happen without applying the right solutions.
Such as those given us by the first two Constitutional Amendments...
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SGM Harvey Boone
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The parents and quack doctors they had these thugs and they refuse to take responsibility and raise them they let a dam TV, cell phone, or a game raise them most never had any interest in the thugs or what they were doing and they kept them drugged most of their lives with some sort of drug and you can't expect anything more form them.
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Cpl Sean Farquharson
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I read an interesting book, titled "Lost Boys" by Dr. James Garbarino. He wrote this book in 1999, after researching and interviewing boys who committed lethal violence, from school shooters to young men who ran with gangs. all of them had a similar view on "the adults can't keep us safe". Furthermore, as for the bullying claims: it isn't simple bullying. That can be overcome. its when the adults- the arbiters in child society- join in or are unavailable to accept/support the child that you really entrench the idea that violence is the only way. Add to this a culture that values celebrity, at any cost and a "if it bleeds, it leads" journalism. also, our education system uses techniques of crowd control prisons use (Selective enforcement of regulation, etc). who do you think is going to be enforced on? it isn't the most popular.

In short: its how we raise our children (especially our boys), the education system and the media.
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