Posted on Jul 11, 2021
What regulation or policy addresses if you are allowed to drink during Reserves AT?
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Our commander has made a great show of belittling my unit, which is a topic for another time. But her favorite thing to keep throwing at us is "you're on title 10 orders, so you can't drink. Look it up".
Well, I did exactly that. I looked it up, or at least tried to. I haven't found anything saying that we can't, but also nothing that says we can. Has anyone else run in to this? Can anyone advise?
Well, I did exactly that. I looked it up, or at least tried to. I haven't found anything saying that we can't, but also nothing that says we can. Has anyone else run in to this? Can anyone advise?
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I have had commanders that did not allow drinking during AT and others who allowed it off duty as long as it was responsible.
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When I have deployed overseas, from the time title 10 orders were put out, about a month before we actually left, until we got back, no alcohol, period. Also all American troops, no alcohol. The Bulgarins, Aussies, French, Greeks. They had booze. Not us. Almost all the article 15s in the unit were from drinking.
One fine NCO had it mailed to her in shampoo bottles. She left Afg poorer and a specialist
One fine NCO had it mailed to her in shampoo bottles. She left Afg poorer and a specialist
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Context matters. Being activated in its own doesn’t mean you are prohibited from drinking. All active duty service members are technically title 10 as well. But if you are in a training area or in an on call status you could be expected to not drink as you can’t drink or be drunk on duty. Commander discretion is also a real thing. We’ve all been in training at some point when the CO said no drinking due to something that happened or something ongoing.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
I fully understand and agree with limiting alcohol during a training mission, but once that is over, I see no reason to restrict legal age soldiers from having a beer.
We were on a mission on Adak during one of those WestCom exercises during the late 80's. After 30 days on the Tundra, we had about three days downtime before we deployed back stateside. The Brigade Commander decided that since the largest contingent outside of our unit was the Marine Guard Barracks stationed on the Island, we were not allowed to drink or go to any of the NCO or Enlisted clubs because we might get into a fight. I got the duty to inform the NCO in charge of the Marine Enlisted Club. I get introduced to the Gunny in charge, who had arms on him bigger than my thighs and looked like he lived in the gym. He politely informed me that he didn't allow trouble in his bar, there were not any Marine nor Navy regulations prohibiting the Army guys from coming in and my Brigade Commander wasn't in his chain of command. I was then introduced to the bouncer, who was one of the largest human beings I have ever met and looked like he spend more time pumping weights than the Gunny. He had no neck. He also informed me that they didn't allow trouble, which I fully believed.
Now three of my guys did go into the club and get stupid, but Gunny said it was no problem for them to throw them out to the waiting Shore Patrol. I got to deal with them when we hit stateside.
We were on a mission on Adak during one of those WestCom exercises during the late 80's. After 30 days on the Tundra, we had about three days downtime before we deployed back stateside. The Brigade Commander decided that since the largest contingent outside of our unit was the Marine Guard Barracks stationed on the Island, we were not allowed to drink or go to any of the NCO or Enlisted clubs because we might get into a fight. I got the duty to inform the NCO in charge of the Marine Enlisted Club. I get introduced to the Gunny in charge, who had arms on him bigger than my thighs and looked like he lived in the gym. He politely informed me that he didn't allow trouble in his bar, there were not any Marine nor Navy regulations prohibiting the Army guys from coming in and my Brigade Commander wasn't in his chain of command. I was then introduced to the bouncer, who was one of the largest human beings I have ever met and looked like he spend more time pumping weights than the Gunny. He had no neck. He also informed me that they didn't allow trouble, which I fully believed.
Now three of my guys did go into the club and get stupid, but Gunny said it was no problem for them to throw them out to the waiting Shore Patrol. I got to deal with them when we hit stateside.
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SSgt Christophe Murphy
CPT Lawrence Cable - I agree. But sometimes mandated prohibitions are a response to prior shenanigan's. My unit went to 29 palms for training before deployment and we were told not to drink because the night we arrived there were Marines from another unit who had a scuffle and one Marine literally slit the throat of another Marine after they had an argument. Our CO had no issue with us but the other units were sketchy so he didnt want us drinking
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