Posted on Feb 13, 2019
SPC David S.
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In receiving a pic from the ladies of the YPJ I was impressed with their "small" sniping Zagros rifle. My first thought was - what's the caliber then it went its a big gun, then to its a small cannon then to what is this thing? Is it as simple as a matter of barrel length compared to the bore or is there more?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7yAMV95Zl4
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Sgt John Steinmeier
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I do believe Gunnery Sergeant Hartman already answered the first part of the question

https://youtu.be/4kU0XCVey_U
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SPC David S.
SPC David S.
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Good one - a modern twist to Major General William H. Rupertus - Rifleman's Creed
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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He was actually incorrect. Those are all "light machineguns."
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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That's looks like a small artillery piece itself.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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A rifle is a weapon with a rifled barrel and stock.
A cannon is a smooth bore direct fire (as opposed to indirect fire like artillery) weapon greater than 50 cal (.5 inches)
A howizter is an indirect fire weapon (between the gun and the mortar)
A gun is a "catch all" term. Some rifles are also guns (the M16/M4 is a light machinegun).
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LTC Jason Mackay
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The M68 105mm Cannon (tank Cannon) are rifled. The M119 Howitzer is rifled. Many cannon and howitzers are rifled.
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What's the difference between rifle vs. gun vs. cannon vs. howitzer?
CAPT Kevin B.
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And for the Navy, they are called guns. Interesting thing, most all Naval gun shoots are low angle. That's because platforms and targets are moving and anything to reduce the time of flight makes for a more reliable solution. That said, way back in the day, the dreadnoughts tended not to be armored heavily on the main deck. The Battlecruiser HMS Hood was one example and was done in by "plunging fire". Bismarck's naval guns were elevated to function like a howitzer, but in direct fire mode.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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The UN cutoff for Large Caliber weapons is 75mm. Smaller than that they are considered either small arms (hand guns, SMGs, rifles etc) or light weapons (AT missiles, machine guns, mortars below 75mm, etc)

https://www.un.org/disarmament/convarms/transparency-in-armaments/

The trajectory, muzzle velocity. and indirect fire vs direct fire differentiate between gun or cannon (direct fire, flatter trajectory), mortars (indirect fire, arc trajectory), and howitzers (can be employed in direct or indirect modes)

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-cannon-a-mortar-and-a-howitzer
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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LTC Jason Mackay The deceased kid brother had a ‘sight, mortar?’ in his duffle-bag when he shipped to Nam.

He claimed that as an very experienced, Direct Fire Crewman, 11 H type, he could also fire indirectly with a Jeep mounted 105 Recoilless Rifle.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025 you can do that by parking it in a 45 degree slope, like a tank during Korea
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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LTC Jason Mackay His 30 days of leave/ delay enroute after being extended 30 days courtesy of the E-4 Mafia did not allow us time to discuss the finer points points of Infantry Soldiering in USAEUR.

I cannot remember how, but he described caching Aggressors there and winding their limbs around a tree as a method of captivity.
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SPC David S.
SPC David S.
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Yes indeed trajectory is a big part of what gets called what -
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SGT Kevin Berman
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I'd say crew served, small cannon! Would not want to be on the receiving end of what that crew serves.
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SPC David S.
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it’s range is 3500 + meters. Over 2 miles - as such I'd agree more like a fire mission than a sniper
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Howitzers and canons, mortars are all crew served. of course not everything fits that mold


https://youtu.be/7eZ4MwgViQI
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SPC David S.
SPC David S.
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Great video -
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Hi folks. I stumbled upon this old thread, and as a newbie to this forum, I thought I'd chime in. Thanks a lot for sharing the info on the difference between rifle, gun, cannon and howitzer As for the Zagros rifle, I'm not exactly sure about the specifics, but I think it's a sniping rifle with a smaller caliber than a typical gun. In terms of barrel length and bore, those factors can definitely impact the performance of a firearm, but there's a lot more that goes into it than just that. Just wanted to say that I recently got myself Bergara BXR on https://walkeroutdoors.net/product/bergara-bxr-22lr-semi-auto/ , and I'm really exited to give it a shot this Saturday (give it a shot, lol). Anyways, thanks a lot for the info! Let's keep this discussion updated.
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