Posted on Nov 27, 2013
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Here at Fort Hood, the DFAC is requiring all patrons (paying and meal card) to sign in using their CAC card and PIN number. What's the purpose of this? Seems a little intrusive. If they are trying to disuede non meal card holders from eating at the DFAC, mission accomplished, for me anyway.
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CSM Michael J. Uhlig
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I've never thought of this being intrusive.....I really don't mind punching the pin in, I will ask the DFAC manager tomorrow, always thought it was to help them keep better track of the headcount.
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1SG Human Resources Specialist
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SFC (Join to see) I'm not sure what the purpose is, but I've long been an advocate of establishing a system where as you enter the DFAC, you use your CAC to pay for your meals. Stop issuing meal cards (antiquated) and stop making meal deductions for single Soldiers. Everyone can keep their BAS and if they eat at the DFAC, it automatically comes out of your check at the end of the month. We seriously need some finance and tech guys to tweak the DFAS pay system to allow for this option. It would cut down on fraud and enable Soldier to not have to fill out missed meal vouchers and still be able to pay for the meals actually served.
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I only see two major problems with your idea: 1) You're using logic and thinking. This is the Army. and 2) I can easily see a setup like that taking years to implement and years more to debug to a useable system
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SGT Ben Keen
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It's been awhile since I've eaten in a DFAC, but is the purpose of signing in with your CAC Card and PIN more so to track how many people use that DFAC compared to another one that might be on the same base?  Seems to just be a better way of tracking head count compared to the old paper sheet that we filled out.
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What's the purpose of tracking transactions with a CAC at the DFAC?
MAJ Laurie H.
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We're introducing CAC verification for all personnel eating at the Camp Edwards DFAC as well.
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Not sure the reason, but my CAC gets scanned every time I come onto Fort Jackson, when I buy anything at the Commissary, go into a gym or fitness center, conduct many personnel or financial transactions, and of course when I log into my computer and sign any documents (and I sign a lot!).
What is the difference in scanning for those and scanning when I go into the DFAC (and pay cash) to eat a meal?

I figure there is a microchip in my ID that tracks me anyway, right? Seriously though, I don't think any specific information is being taken when I scan my card like that, except that I was in a place.
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SrA David Steyer
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I wonder if it is an Army thing. I only ever had to scan my CAC when I went to the Fort Drum gym once. I never had to scan it on an AFB.
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MSG Career Counselor
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Hmmm I don't like the idea of putting my Cac card if I am paying cash. I understand if your a meal card holder that would be better way to track then the show your card and enter a soc but everyone using Cac card??? Don't like that idea one bit.
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SSG(P) Senior Communications Nco
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That's the answer. There are people that eat on the military's dollar almost everyday and also receive BAS. I guess this is a small portion of their plan to save money.
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SFC Senior Truckmaster
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Understand cracking down on fraud. Meal cards should be verified as valid. But if I hand over cash, then the transaction is over. No need to track it.
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SSG(P) Senior Communications Nco
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Now I understand what your issue is. I would hope this issue is addressed soon to whoever made this decision. But, of course, they will apply it to everyone in the beginning stages until it is brought up as unnecessary to track EVERYONE.
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MSG Career Counselor
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I agree I don't want put my Cac card in if I am using cash. The soldier should be able to do a proper count of people using cash.
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The purpose is to allocate funding based on use to the facility. If not enough use, they facility won’t recieve funding to continue operation for example, the fort Shafter DFAC closed due to lack of use
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