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Whats wrong with us as a people when we riot over the wrongful death of a man that is by all accounts a drug dealer and user even though he should not have died yet the same people that raised the hate level in America have said ZERO about a Police Officer and hero that was Killed in the line of duty by a thug?? does anyone feel like we are treated the same by people like Sharpton as the Police officer? I feel like people like that care about as much about us veterans as they do about police...NOTHING
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In a phrase; Yellow Journalism. Talking heads are one the worst things to happen since Hearst said "You provide the pictures, I'll provide the war."
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How to phrase this... I know I'm removing context, and I apologize, but I think it's important to highlight the phrase, because I think this is the important part.
...Rioting over the wrongful death of a man...
I don't advocate rioting. But "if" I did, it would be for this. It wouldn't matter if he was a thug, or what. His past doesn't excuse the wrongful death. It doesn't excuse the rioting either.
But... Rioting is a symptom.
If you think of the Nation as a Person. Rioting is Pain. Pain is your body telling you that something is wrong. What do you do when your body tells you something is wrong? You stop immediately and try to assess what is causing it. Once we figure out what is wrong we try to fix it.
How is this any different?
So to get back to your question PO2 Mark Saffell "What's wrong with us as a country?"
If anything, it's that we keep focusing on the "symptom" and not the underlying "problem."
...Rioting over the wrongful death of a man...
I don't advocate rioting. But "if" I did, it would be for this. It wouldn't matter if he was a thug, or what. His past doesn't excuse the wrongful death. It doesn't excuse the rioting either.
But... Rioting is a symptom.
If you think of the Nation as a Person. Rioting is Pain. Pain is your body telling you that something is wrong. What do you do when your body tells you something is wrong? You stop immediately and try to assess what is causing it. Once we figure out what is wrong we try to fix it.
How is this any different?
So to get back to your question PO2 Mark Saffell "What's wrong with us as a country?"
If anything, it's that we keep focusing on the "symptom" and not the underlying "problem."
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
PO2 Mark Saffell To draw a parallel. We're pounding Motrin for a broken leg. It may stop the swelling, but it won't fix the leg.
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CPL J Sannizzaro
In this case I have to disagree. To use your body analogy, this is and old wound. Say a knee wound. But we go on with our life. We go and get the wound treated. All this is done! It happened in a past we no longer have any direct memory of. Say when we a young child, just for comparison.
Now sometimes that old wound hurts from the past, let's say we are out playing ball and twist it again. Some walk it off, it's an old wound we have become accustom to dealing with in its new semi healed state. Some use it as an excuse to lay on the field and act seriously hurt again for whatever false reason. Sometimes it is truly damaged again and needs treatment again.
Can you agree with me so far?
Now here is the question. Does my son, get to claim my injury as his excuse? How about my grandson? Did my injury affect them in some way? Probably yes in our interactions, but their own personal performance. No they don't. They don't get to claim my injuries any more than my accomplishments. My great grand child even less.
Now sometimes that old wound hurts from the past, let's say we are out playing ball and twist it again. Some walk it off, it's an old wound we have become accustom to dealing with in its new semi healed state. Some use it as an excuse to lay on the field and act seriously hurt again for whatever false reason. Sometimes it is truly damaged again and needs treatment again.
Can you agree with me so far?
Now here is the question. Does my son, get to claim my injury as his excuse? How about my grandson? Did my injury affect them in some way? Probably yes in our interactions, but their own personal performance. No they don't. They don't get to claim my injuries any more than my accomplishments. My great grand child even less.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
CPL J Sannizzaro Excellent point!
In this case, I think (like is often the case) the truth is somewhere between the two extremes. As I said, I in no way condone rioting. I do condone Protest, and the ability to petition for grievances.
Now, unfortunately, from EITHER a micro or a macro view this can very much look like a very simple thing, when it is in fact something infinitely more complex.
But going back to your analogy. There is no difference between your son and you. You are the same person. We are the same person. It's one Nation. One organism, and that's what most people just don't get. If there is rioting in Baltimore, that affects Los Angeles, just like you getting kicked in the nethers means you can't think straight.
In this case, I think (like is often the case) the truth is somewhere between the two extremes. As I said, I in no way condone rioting. I do condone Protest, and the ability to petition for grievances.
Now, unfortunately, from EITHER a micro or a macro view this can very much look like a very simple thing, when it is in fact something infinitely more complex.
But going back to your analogy. There is no difference between your son and you. You are the same person. We are the same person. It's one Nation. One organism, and that's what most people just don't get. If there is rioting in Baltimore, that affects Los Angeles, just like you getting kicked in the nethers means you can't think straight.
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MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
Not sue what you are talking about but, the guy was running away from an arrest. If the cop said "stop or I will shoot". I suggest you stop. Video on shows what happen after the altercation. Liberal news always gives half a story.
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As much as people threw out the name "Freddie" as the source of the Baltimore riots, you have to know that the people weren't rioting for ONE MAN. They were rioting about the 31 deaths over the last year at the hands of the Baltimore Police Department. You say that's not such a big number... but look at the number of people killed by the New York City Police Department in the same time frame - 8. Now look at the population of both cities - Baltimore has about 600,000 people, while NY has 8.5 million. There are over 10x as many people in NYC, but the police there killed over 2/3 fewer in the course of a year.
This clearly shows that there is a disproportionate amount of lethal force being used by police in Baltimore. Does this excuse rioting? No. But is it a cause for protest and outrage? Absolutely.
This clearly shows that there is a disproportionate amount of lethal force being used by police in Baltimore. Does this excuse rioting? No. But is it a cause for protest and outrage? Absolutely.
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TSgt Christopher D.
MAJ Bryan Zeski sir, if you're ever in my neck, the 1st two beers are on me. You can get the rest of them. :P
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SPC Charles Brown
Well said MAJ Bryan Zeski, if you ever get to Klamath Falls area, stop by and I too will buy you a round.
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MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
Don't know Maj. Many reasons more bad people in Baltimore. Bigger rime problem, drugs, etc. maybe New York eliminated those problems or just shipped them to Baltimore.
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