Posted on Apr 3, 2017
SN Vivien Roman-Hampton
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Many of the service members on PatientsLikeMe are discussing employment and finding employment. What's your experience been like?
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SN Vivien Roman-Hampton When I was discharged in June, 1972, I interviewed along with 100 others for two operator jobs at a chemical plant. I was hired along with someone that had a college degree. I was hired because I was prepared by doing my homework on the company and having a well written resume. I also did well on the tests they had me take. I interviewed with three managers, and one manager did not like the military or veterans. I stayed calm and answered his questions.

When I obtained my degree, I went to work on the Space Shuttle program. Again, I did my homework on the program, had on a nice suit, excellent resume, and did very well on the interviews. I retired when the program ended. The key is to research the company, prepare your resume, and be ready for the interviews, i.e. "Tell me about yourself", "What value can you bring to our company," etc. Planning and preparation take time, but how bad do you want the job when there are other qualified applicants.
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SN Vivien Roman-Hampton
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Sgt (Join to see) I couldn't agree with you more. Spending the time to get to know the mission of the company and come prepared. It is how I have always done my interviews.

What was it like to work on the Space Shuttle program? I would imagine that is an interesting place to work!
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SN Vivien Roman-Hampton - It was my dream job. I started three years before the first flight, and stayed until one month after the last flight. The reward for the hard work was seeing successful flights and missions. Over the course of 33 years, I was probably too engaged in the program. I was out of sorts for two years after the program ended.
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COL Charles Williams
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Don't be afraid of the military or veterans... We all know teamwork, discipline, integrity, hard work, loyalty, and we want to win.
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CPL Beth Allsop
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I'm just glad the media has stopped portraying the lie the every Vet has PTSD and can explode at any time, that made it more difficult for all of us to find jobs!
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SN Vivien Roman-Hampton
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CPL Beth Allsop Yes! That is a conversation I have with people who have never served. There are blanket assumptions out there that need to be corrected and also that even if a Veteran has PTSD doesn't mean they are unable to function at a job.
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What's your experience finding employment? What do you wish employers understood about veterans?
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In my case just understanding the concept of what the National Guard or the Reserves is and does.
Also that every time I go on a longer drill or annual training that I am not deploying forever and quitting my job.
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SGT Dennis Carpenter
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As an employer and a Veteran, I wish employers understood that the service member or Veteran is MORE than their MOS. Just because you were infantry, combat arms or mortuary affairs, you are not put into this box that only allows you to work in positions that directly relate to what you did in the military. They need to look at everything the Veteran has done. Let's start with the MOS and all that it entails and then from there let's look at the rank that they held and all of the attributes associated with that rank. If someone was an NCO, they have leadership, training and development experience. [Side bar - In working with Ford Motor Company, I explained that NCO's and Officers work with lower enlisted soldiers to help "manufacture" them into high speed soldiers through training, development and leadership to help create new NCO's/ Officers. Due to how it was explained, Ford now considers any NCO or Officer to have manufacturing experience. It's not "traditional" manufacturing experience, but manufacturing experience none the less.-] Those things need to be taken into consideration. In addition, let's look at the schools the individual attended as well as the additional responsibilities they had, the many hats they wore and the additional duties they performed. BUT, most companies do not know how to translate a Veteran's military experience, rank or let alone, their MOS. The companies that have federal contracts have obligations with regards to Veteran hiring and it would be a hell of a lot easier for them if they knew what they were doing. However, this is where folks like me come in to build Veteran hiring programs and work to not only get them on track and to at least 7% Veteran hiring, but also educate.
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SN Vivien Roman-Hampton
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SGT Dennis Carpenter We need more people like you in positions that can help educate employers. I know when I first got out, I had served in a special duty billet for Master-At-Arms, the only jobs interested in me were police and security. After a while, I ended up taking a position in Loss Prevention just because I wanted to work. It would have been really helpful to connect with an employer who would have seen past the title of my job and focused more on the myriad of skills that came with it.
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SGT Dennis Carpenter
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That's exactly what I do. I educate companies on all of the benefits Veterans bring to the table. I open their eyes and help them see beyond the MOS. When I work with Veterans, the first thing I tell them is "You are more than your MOS, more than your rank, more than the schools you've attended and more than the extra duties you've tended to. You are a combination of all of those things". Never limit yourself to what your MOS. I don't always blame the companies either. Many of us joined the military out of high school and we don't know exactly how to articulate what we've done so that it makes sense for civilians. We don't know that we should break down our rank or break down the schools we've attended. If we just say "Attended ANOC", no one outside of the military knows what the hell that means. We need to civilianize our resumes so that the employer fully understands not only what we've done, but what we are truly capable of.
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SPC Eric Peterson
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I got out of the Army officially back in 2005 and kind of fell into tech support and customer service related jobs. Currently I'm working for CapGemini with a government contract there. I've been lucky to be living in Austin, where there are loads of tech support type jobs available. My previous military experience definitely helps in walking customers through troubleshooting their equipment, and dealing with issues positively, and quickly.
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Capt Brandon Charters
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That our MOS / AFSC does not correlate to what we want to do in industry.
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SN Vivien Roman-Hampton
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Capt Brandon Charters Right. Was that an issue for you?
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Capt Brandon Charters
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It wasn't an issue for me, SN Vivien Roman-Hampton. I have seen many veterans on RallyPoint that have run into this though.
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SFC William "Bill" Moore
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My first 2 months out, I put in over 30 resumes/applications. Nothing, no interviews, no feed back, nothing. Then I get a call from one of the gov. agencies wanting to conduct a phone interview. Interview completed, meet the next week at the site and do a VTC interview with the main boss. I figured I blew it because the VTC interview only lasted about 5 minutes. The guy who is now my supervisor walks out of the interview and asks me if I can start the next Monday? Of course I can! I walk to my truck and get a call from another agency offering me a job, I decline. Drive about a half mile and get another call from a different agency, I decline. All said, I was hired with one agency and declined two offers from two different agencies and one from a gov. contractor in a matter of 1 hour. In the 5 weeks that followed, I declined 26 job offers, of the 30 or so I put in. Been 5 and a half years now.
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SN Vivien Roman-Hampton
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SFC William "Bill" Moore Wow, that's impressive.
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MGySgt Rick Tyrrell
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Commitment, loyalty and proven experience to get the job done has worked well for me. Setting the example at all times even when the boss or co-workers are not around is extremely important
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SGT James Colwell
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First of all, I am NOT complaining, but simply stating my experience in trying to find a job (which I am still trying to do). As a veteran with no combat deployments, and having served many years ago, I am what is called a non-protected vet. As such, my service does not appear to have any measurable impact in finding employment. I am FULLY in support of recently separated vets and those who have served in combat or combat support being given preferential treatment. Those of us who are the "lost vets" have nobody to blame for not being in combat, and our service, in the eyes of private sector employers is simply another entry on a CV or application. It is what it is. My service is a matter of immense satisfaction and pride. It simply does not translate into private sector employment very well.
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