Posted on Sep 30, 2016
What's your opinion on the U.S Navy moving towards being gender-neutral?
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So, I think we all pretty much know that the Navy doesn't usually do anything for its Sailors unless it also benefits itself as well. With this in mind, I've been trying to figure out what the benefit of re-naming all the rates to 'petty officer' would be. I think I've got it- As a force, we are moving towards being GENDERLESS. Soon females will be wearing the same uniforms as men (it's already happening, females are being issued dixie cups in basic training, etc.) and now man/men has been removed from every single rating title. Anyone want to bet that at some point in the near future we will be calling female officers 'Sir', just like the males? Is it a coincidence that the rates are all renamed according to gender-neutrality on 29 September, then on 1 October, transgender people will be able to serve openly? What's your POV on this subject?
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PO3 Michael Cienfuegos
Agreed. There are too many people worried about "offending" another person by using the wrong pronoun to describe that person. I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but to me a man is a man and a woman is a woman. Stop all this political correctness crap. I do believe Walt Kelley had it right when Pogo said: "We have met the enemy and he is us!"
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If it is a MOS that both have the ability to serve in I see no problem as LONG as professional discipline is maintained and there is ONE standard for all
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Well I think we should leave some things alone in all branches if it really didn't cause any harm to anyone. I like some of the Navy traditional stuff that was in place when I came in (1992). Now the things that where actually causing harm like hazing and drunken Sailors, that's a different story. "Yeoman" and "Seaman" are traditional Navy terms and found nowhere else. They should just keep the ratings, it didn't hurt anyone.
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PO1 Gino Gochicoa
Considering that "man" is in WoMAN, MANkind, huMAN, it really makes not sense for the Navy to take this term out of its ratings. Is that to say that the rest of society should also quit saying "Woman", "human" and "Mankind" or any other term with "man" in it?
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I'm guessing it's similar to what happens when the Air Force constantly changes it's uniforms, stripes, name tapes, patches, and hats or when they renamed and renumbered their regulations to instructions. In other words its a diversionary tactic, the important stuff is going on in the background and not being talked about.
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Short and sweet, gender-nuteral is nothing more than the Navy caving in to Politically Correct BS.
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Lowering standards to accommodate never improved the performance of any organization.
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Bob J. Mc Farland LT DC USNR (Ret'd)
I agree with PO1 Michael Fulmer, The whole conversation smells like a fricking six hole outhouse. The U.S.Navy was formed over 200 years ago for men of our country to defend any invasions by foreign armies. All of this including women in all of our armed forces has been one hell of a mess. We get into enough trouble with women just being forced to live around them. We don't need to work with them too. The good Lord put women on this earth to have our babies and to love them and to raise them to adulthood..
Enough said. No questions in my mind about this subject.
Bob J. Mc Farland LT DC USNR Ret'd
I agree with PO1 Michael Fulmer, The whole conversation smells like a fricking six hole outhouse. The U.S.Navy was formed over 200 years ago for men of our country to defend any invasions by foreign armies. All of this including women in all of our armed forces has been one hell of a mess. We get into enough trouble with women just being forced to live around them. We don't need to work with them too. The good Lord put women on this earth to have our babies and to love them and to raise them to adulthood..
Enough said. No questions in my mind about this subject.
Bob J. Mc Farland LT DC USNR Ret'd
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PO2 (Join to see) I do not agree with it. Don't think it's right...calling a female "SIR" is okay, I guess...but Genderless is just WRONG!...in my opinion.
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People aren't gender-neutral so why should the military be so? We have different physical characteristics and differing environmental needs. One Size Fits All doesn't really fit anyone.
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