Posted on Oct 10, 2014
SPC(P) Bianca Embry
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Just out of curiosity, when an NCO gives their soldier a counseling for "Overall Performance" should it include other peoples opinions in it?

Also; should the counseling only reflect the negative, or unfortunate circumstances from only the last 48 hours that were not an ideal work environment for everyone. (As a good leader should know, each soldier reacts differently to every situation; and they should know their soldiers ability to function in a stressful or difficult situation)

Lastly, Should an Overall Performance counseling have "corrective Action" in the Plan of Action section?

I am asking these questions out of curiosity for my own knowledge. I in fact got a similar 4856 that had these attributes, I had a very rough week (as did everyone in my unit) I just had a harder time 'bouncing back'; and instead of getting asked questions or being asked if I wanted to talk I basically got a negative counseling with a different headline. I felt very singled out and misunderstood. And when i tried to explain myself I was told "I don't care about your excuses".

Also, of course I plan on doing everything asked of me in this counseling statement. Because I in fact care about my career and it bothered me very deeply that I had gotten this before getting asked how I was doing. But I would like to know what is right, or wrong or what should have been done differently.
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CSM Director, Market Development
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SPC(P) Bianca Embry Counseling should always be a two way street. It is a way for you to work with your supervisor identify the positives and negatives and work towards a solution. If you and your supervisor follow the action plan, you both will benefit.
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SPC(P) Bianca Embry
SPC(P) Bianca Embry
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thank you very much for tour input CSM! I agree with this, I just felt that it was taken to an unnecessary level. I agreed to the plan of action, but not so much the overall situation. Have an outstanding weekend!
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Same to you!
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1SG Steven Stankovich
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SPC(P) Bianca Embry, it sounds to me by the way that you wrote your post that you already know the answers and you are looking for validation of what you believe. Counseling sessions serve many purposes. I will not go into detail about the types of counseling, reasons for counseling, how to set up the counseling session, etc. What I will say though is that if you are going to discuss "overall performance," unless your overall performance was negative for the period covered in the counseling, then the counselor should cover everything. That is performance counseling. If it is something that is either specifically negative or positive, then it is event oriented. See, there I go reverting back to the types of counseling. You seem to understand what right looks like. Use this as a learning point for yourself as something not to do in a counseling session. Keep your chin up and your eyes on the horizon. Good luck!!!
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SPC(P) Bianca Embry
SPC(P) Bianca Embry
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I have learned over the past few years it is always a good idea to communicate with my seniors and peers about anything I may have a hard time understanding, this was one of those times that I wanted to make sure I wasn't thinking absurdly. I really appreciate your input very much, have a fantastic weekend! ATW!
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Edited 10 y ago
I would say an overall counseling (emphasis on overall) should contain good and bad and suggested corrective actions. As for other people's opinions ... maybe, but only if they are in the chain of command.

It sounds like you have the right attitude, SPC(P) Bianca Embry. Keep soldiering on with that right attitude, and you'll go far. "Correcting" your NCO may be tough, but you'll be an NCO yourself soon, and you can do it right.
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SPC(P) Bianca Embry
SPC(P) Bianca Embry
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Thank you very much Chief! It is absolutely a tough situation, regardless of how I feel about my leadership at this time I understand we all really had a very rough week and I will follow through with the corrective training. But I think next week I will ask my NCO if I can express how the whole situation made me feel and what I maybe would have done differently. Tactfully, of course. Have a great weekend Sir!
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