Posted on Mar 16, 2021
What to do when a Soldier is consistently on quarters?
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I have a Soldier that has been on quarters a total of 43 days this year alone. It has been over 9 different instances and with very short notice. She states that she has allergies or is sick and is able to keep getting letters from a civilian doctor exempting her from work for several days at a time. She also states she is on medication at times that prevents her from driving a GOV, which is critical for her MOS, but then is out driving her sports car everywhere during her time off. I haven’t dealt with an issue like this in the past and my chain of command is also at a loss of what to do. If she doesn’t want to participate in something she is sick and doesn’t. Is a fit for duty directed by the commander worth doing or can she pass that and continue what she has been doing? Any advice would be appreciated. It has gotten to the point that the rest of the team has to pick up her slack and she can’t be relied on for anything due to the fact she will last minute be unable to be present.
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Pull her pass and off duty privileges . Refer her to a PEB and subsequent discharge if warranted.
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Time to send her ass packing, home. Sorry your in the Army, if your not dependable your useless.
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Permanent Party CQ. 24 on, 24 off, for eternity. That shit will get old real fast.
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" keep getting letters from a civilian doctor exempting her from work for several days at a time. "
This is your commands mistake. A civilian Doctor CANNOT profile or put someone on Quarters. Only a MILITARY Doctor can do so.
BLUF: You guys have been letting her get away with some shennanigans she shouldn't have.
This is your commands mistake. A civilian Doctor CANNOT profile or put someone on Quarters. Only a MILITARY Doctor can do so.
BLUF: You guys have been letting her get away with some shennanigans she shouldn't have.
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We are assigned to a remote area where we use Tricare Prime Remote, which is exclusively civilian doctors.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
SFC (Join to see) - I know, I'm at Mccoy, and I use Tricare prime remote as well.
Depending on where you are located, there is a Military Treatment Facility designated to review doctors notes for reservists in their region (The MTF at Kentucky does the profiling for our reservists).
But profiles MUST go through military medicine. There's no "unless you're a reservist" exemption.
Depending on where you are located, there is a Military Treatment Facility designated to review doctors notes for reservists in their region (The MTF at Kentucky does the profiling for our reservists).
But profiles MUST go through military medicine. There's no "unless you're a reservist" exemption.
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I have dealt with this a few times. There are two ways you can go about this. You need to speak with your provider and get their take on it. They can get a permeant profile if there is really something going on or they can get medically cleared. If they are still complaining about an injury when they are medically cleared by a provider then you contact your Behavioral Health Provider. I would usually see what they said and both times I did this I sent the Soldier for a BH assessment. Both times they came back with a BH issue that led the provider to behave that the Soldier thought they were hurt when they were not. Both times I initiated a Ch 5-17 and they were gone in two months. You need to do the coordination with the providers so they understand. If you don't they may get played by the Service Member.
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I have never had to fact check this or look at the reg to prove this but I have been in multiple units where if a shoulder received quarters “recommendations” from a civilian doctor that it had to be taken to the Soldiers PCM/clinic to be turned into a quarters slip. All of this had to be done prior to being given to the commander for their signature.
I always understood it as how can a civilian doctor outside the military network put a Soldier on quarters. Seems to me it would have to be a military doc. And then the check and balance is that commander signing the slip. After so many the commander can request for the PCM to look into it. Maybe it is a Soldier trying to get over on the system. Or maybe it is something worse and an underlying problem.
I always understood it as how can a civilian doctor outside the military network put a Soldier on quarters. Seems to me it would have to be a military doc. And then the check and balance is that commander signing the slip. After so many the commander can request for the PCM to look into it. Maybe it is a Soldier trying to get over on the system. Or maybe it is something worse and an underlying problem.
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It sounds like malingering, but she has essentially disqualified herself from further service. Paper changes paper and this one should be easy. The Command knows which route to take, or they need to learn. If she's Recruiting, performance may be a way. She should not be involved with prospects, considering her actions. It's called working the system to get what she wants, and it appears she doesn't want to be a Soldier. USMC Recruiters that tried this would get handled fairly quickly. In the words of one RS CO, the only way out was face down and bloody. The last step before flushing a turd is the paperwork.
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I'd start the paper trail. And if it continues then start working with Company and Battalion to get the SDAP turned off. USAREC doesn't play around.
Mainly annotate it in counselings, support form, and NCOER. We can't be afraid to be honest in evaluations.
Mainly annotate it in counselings, support form, and NCOER. We can't be afraid to be honest in evaluations.
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Malingering comes to mind! She is on quarters, as I understood from my time, she is stuck in her quarters, if that is the barracks, then you don't leave the barracks. Counsel her and wait for her to go for a ride again and slam the door on her.
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