Posted on Oct 28, 2021
What type of discharge should I expect for refusing the covid vaccine?
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I have no negative marks on my record and have been in the army for over two years.
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I'm confused with this new army. When I was in basic, I got more shot than I could count, no one asked. When I deployed to Korea, I got more, no one asked. I got what I was ordered to get, when I was ordered to get it. Otherwise I would have been discharged. I'm pretty sure the same applies for you.
Your resistance to health care can only be attributable to politics, bad and dangerous politics. As such, I can only hope that you get an OTH discharge.
Your resistance to health care can only be attributable to politics, bad and dangerous politics. As such, I can only hope that you get an OTH discharge.
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SPC Jeremy A
SGT (Join to see) - OH so since we're copy/pasting, let's do this!
How did you pass the NCO boards without being able to distinguish "MODIFICATION" from "MANIPULATION"? I never said anything was permanently changed. That's a BAD FAITH post there (Verify To See).
How did you pass the NCO boards without being able to distinguish "MODIFICATION" from "MANIPULATION"? I never said anything was permanently changed. That's a BAD FAITH post there (Verify To See).
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PFC David Tomlinson
SPC Jeremy A - Unless I am violating some pedant's rule, your basic premise is bullshit. Just more fear-peddling...
"mRNA, was discovered in the early 1960s; research into how mRNA could be delivered into cells was developed in the 1970s"
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines#:~:text=Messenger%20RNA%2C%20or%20mRNA%2C%20was,was%20developed%20in%20the%201970s.
"mRNA, was discovered in the early 1960s; research into how mRNA could be delivered into cells was developed in the 1970s"
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines#:~:text=Messenger%20RNA%2C%20or%20mRNA%2C%20was,was%20developed%20in%20the%201970s.
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SPC Jeremy A
PFC David Tomlinson - Look, I honestly don't have the time or energy (or had the wherewithal to save standard responses to the same 4 counter points). If it's important to you, please check my history. I've got at least one but probably more posts in here that has the specific timelines for mRNA clinical work and trials AND timelines for the encapsulation technology that delivers the mRNA. They have only been used TOGETHER recently. NONE if it was 60's/70's (or 80's and I THINK not even 90's) as your article would suggest.
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SPC Jeremy A
PFC David Tomlinson - Found a post myself: First CLINICAL TRIAL (not approval) for mRNA vaccines with influenza was in 2015, first LIPID (non mRNA) APPROVED was in 2018. Moderna/Pfizer is the first lipid bilayer delivered mRNA vaccine APPROVED and that was 2020 with an EMERGENCY approval.
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Since when has a soldier had a choice when it came to vaccines?? When I was in you got the vaccines or you faced an Article 15 or discharge! I don't understand what the problem is! I've gotten both COVID vaccines and last week the booster. No side effects of any kind except a sore arm which I always get when I get the flu shot!
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SPC Jeremy A
Apart from your 'sample size of 1', you should consider that NONE of those other shots enter your cells, introduce created genetic material (mRNA) that your cells then use to produced a foreign protein which is then released into your bloodstream. NOT A SINGLE ONE. This is an entirely NEW technology, method of action and operates at the genetic manipulation level. That's worth a pause to discuss. I don't believe the oath I took authorizes my chain of command to manipulate me at the genetic level.
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The first vaccine mandate was issued by George Washington to combat smallpox in The Continental Army. In 1809 the State of Massachusetts also mandated vaccination for smallpox.The greatest challenge to Massachusetts’s vaccine mandates would come nearly a century after the initial legislation, in a case that would go to the highest court in the land. Massachusetts resident Henning Jacobson refused a mandatory smallpox booster vaccine in 1902, citing a bad reaction to his first shot several years prior. After he was fined $5 (the equivalent of approximately $153 today) for refusing to comply, local anti-vaccination activists picked up his case, eventually bringing it all the way to the Supreme Court.
Smallpox ‘virus squads’ and the mandatory vaccinations upheld by the Supreme Court
In a 7-2 vote, the Supreme Court upheld the mandate and the state’s right to fine citizens who did not comply, though it also decreed that no one could be forcibly vaccinated. “[T]he liberty secured by the Constitution of the United States to every person within its jurisdiction does not import an absolute right in each person to be, at all times and in all circumstances, wholly free from restraint,” wrote Justice John Marshall Harlan in the majority opinion. With that, the mandate enacted nearly 100 years prior was affirmed as constitutionally appropriate. Every vaccination mandate since has been upheld as lawful and constitutionally appropriate. As an aside. A neighbor that works in an Emergency Department at a major hospital, tells me that when a person comes in with Covid, and they start inserting IV tubing and administering various drugs, only one patient out of the hundreds they have seen, has asked "what are you giving me?"
Smallpox ‘virus squads’ and the mandatory vaccinations upheld by the Supreme Court
In a 7-2 vote, the Supreme Court upheld the mandate and the state’s right to fine citizens who did not comply, though it also decreed that no one could be forcibly vaccinated. “[T]he liberty secured by the Constitution of the United States to every person within its jurisdiction does not import an absolute right in each person to be, at all times and in all circumstances, wholly free from restraint,” wrote Justice John Marshall Harlan in the majority opinion. With that, the mandate enacted nearly 100 years prior was affirmed as constitutionally appropriate. Every vaccination mandate since has been upheld as lawful and constitutionally appropriate. As an aside. A neighbor that works in an Emergency Department at a major hospital, tells me that when a person comes in with Covid, and they start inserting IV tubing and administering various drugs, only one patient out of the hundreds they have seen, has asked "what are you giving me?"
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If the Republicans in Congress get their way an Honorable
Now in Biden and his Sec of Defense get their way a dishonorable or at the very least a Bad Conduct
Now in Biden and his Sec of Defense get their way a dishonorable or at the very least a Bad Conduct
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I have to agree with SCPO 's comment, in addition, if you attended school you would of had to have been vaccinated. Also, If your intention is to make the military a career, your definitely starting off on the wrong foot. But, Inevitably the choice is yours and yours alone to make.
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Have you ever heard of Typhoid Mary? She was immune and rejected any type of medication. She infected thousands of people who later died from the Typhoid. If the only person you are thinking about is yourself, then you are as selfish as she was. Are you a little baby who is afraid to get a shot? Is that the problem? Maybe what you need to do is go home and infect your entire family. I would give you a DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE!
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Cpl Robert Davis
Let’s found the science. The so called vaccine doesn’t stop you from getting the CCP virus and it doesn’t stop you from spreading it. So if you get the vaccine you could have it and spread it to your entire family without any symptoms of the virus.
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SPC Jeremy A
These shots introduce created genetic material (mRNA) that your cells then use to produced a foreign protein which is then released into your bloodstream. This is an entirely NEW technology, method of action and operates at the genetic manipulation level. That's worth a pause to discuss. I don't believe the oath I took authorizes my chain of command to manipulate me at the genetic level. But HEY, "I was just following orders" is the answer to EVERY ethical and moral dilemma isn't it Chief?
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SPC Lyle Montgomery
Did it ever occur to you that some people don't believe in this bad vaccine and don't drink the kool aid that this worthless biden adminestration is touting? I admire those who have the good sense to care more about their health than military standing.
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Jan. 10, 2023 |
Today in a memo, Secretary Austin rescinded the Aug. 24, 2021 memorandum mandating that members of the Armed Forces under DoD authority be vaccinated against COVID-19, and the memorandum of Nov. 30, 2021, pertaining to the vaccination of National Guard and Reserve personnel. This rescission requirement was established by the James M. Inhofe National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023.
The health and readiness of the Force are crucial to the Department's ability to defend our nation. Secretary Austin continues to encourage all Service members, civilian employees, and contractor personnel to get vaccinated and boosted against COVID-19 to ensure Total Force readiness.
The full rescission memorandum can be found here.
https://media.defense.gov/2023/Jan/10/ [login to see] /-1/-1/1/SECRETARY-OF-DEFENSE-MEMO-ON-RESCISSION-OF-CORONAVIRUS-DISEASE-2019-VACCINATION-REQUIREMENTS-FOR-MEMBERS-OF-THE-ARMED-FORCES.PDF
I'm just going to leave this here.
Today in a memo, Secretary Austin rescinded the Aug. 24, 2021 memorandum mandating that members of the Armed Forces under DoD authority be vaccinated against COVID-19, and the memorandum of Nov. 30, 2021, pertaining to the vaccination of National Guard and Reserve personnel. This rescission requirement was established by the James M. Inhofe National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023.
The health and readiness of the Force are crucial to the Department's ability to defend our nation. Secretary Austin continues to encourage all Service members, civilian employees, and contractor personnel to get vaccinated and boosted against COVID-19 to ensure Total Force readiness.
The full rescission memorandum can be found here.
https://media.defense.gov/2023/Jan/10/ [login to see] /-1/-1/1/SECRETARY-OF-DEFENSE-MEMO-ON-RESCISSION-OF-CORONAVIRUS-DISEASE-2019-VACCINATION-REQUIREMENTS-FOR-MEMBERS-OF-THE-ARMED-FORCES.PDF
I'm just going to leave this here.
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Being in a military family for several family lifetimes, this is the first time anyone in our family would refuse a vaccine, and thank God they did. This vaccine is causing many deaths related to blood, heart and cancer. Things are different now, and these are not normal time, something is definitely wrong someplace to push an long term untested shot of spike protein into a human body, when it can cause all kinds of unknown long term harm.
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I know a person at my VFW that just got discharge for this exact reason and they got a “General Under Honorable Conditions” discharge
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