Posted on Mar 11, 2016
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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This question is for our Vietnam era Veterans here on RallyPoint. Share with us what your feelings were when you first received and opened your draft notice.

The Comments Here are Historical and Awesome!

What was your stance on the war? Explain your opinion

Did your parents put ideas into your head about the war that you didn't nessisarly believe in?
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SP5 Ray Bosnich
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I guess I should have read the entire question......... In high school I knew where French Indo-China was, but I didn't realize that it had been re-named Viet Nam. I was a little naïve about that. My MOS was in Military Intelligence and I soon learned the whereabouts of RVN but was assigned to a small post in Maryland. Not much chance to winding up in Nam. After a bit I volunteered to go there and was turned down twice. I finally did get the assignment. Upon my arrival there I wondered about the wisdom of that decision but once I got there and got to my assignment, I decided I had made the right choice. Still do. Upon my return, I found out that classmates of mine were still assigned at their original post. They were never transferred anywhere. Kind of a boring stint in my mind.
My support of the war was based on what I learned while there. I'm still convinced that we were there for the right reasons.
As far as family members trying to change my mind.....My dad was Airborne in WWII. My grandfather was a USMC lifer and Pearl Harbor survivor. My kid brother was the only one who spoke against the war, but he was 4F because his head was permanently locked in a rectal position. Like most people his age, he drank the Kool-Aid and listened to the rhetoric of his peers. He didn't challenge our presence in Nam that much in the presence of Dad and Grandpa.
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No worries SP5 Ray Bosnich - by the way I sent you a connection request a while back and you haven't responded to it. It shows you're still waiting for confirmation. Did you get the email notification Ray?
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CWO2 Darryl Craft
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I was in Great lakes , about to finish MM A school. I had tried to go in the army, but my dad wouldn't sign for me. After many discussion s he agreed to sign for US Navy, the military was my way out from the farm. I could not believe all the marches and violence against the war. I was ready to go!
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SCPO Ysmael Ramos
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One way ticket to your funeral. I grew up in Killeen, Texas. Most all our neighborhood was Army families. There was not a week go by that someone was KIA. I still have the original draft card intact. I will never forget that thought.
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I never was drafted sir. Even if it were back when the draft was still good I would have still enlisted rather then wait for my draft notice.
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Cpl Howard Dingman
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1-A. My birthday had come up in the lottery in mid-200s for years, but came up in the top 25 the year I turned 18. Then they ended the draft. Never got the notice, but did enlist.
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SGT Peter Hayes
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I never got a Draft notice I hade my draft card and enlisted and swore in 74 and after the fall of Saigon I was placed on delayed entry. my Dad was proud my mom was a little nervous. I was the 2nd oldest of 9 and the only son to serve and the 1st to leave home.
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SGT Gl Hansen
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The draft age was 19 when I was drafted in October 1966. My notice was post marked 2 days before my 19th birthday and I was sworn in 3 weeks later. My dad was a WWII veteran and former POW. He made it clear that it was my duty to serve our country. I did serve to the best of my ability. Made Sgt E5 with 13 months of service and came home in one piece.
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I knew it was coming, so I took every precaution. I applied for the Peace Corps and a job at the National Institutes of Health that was draft deferring. As time got closer to getting the dreaded letter, I went down to the Air Force recruiter, and signed me up with the brand new 90-day delayed entry program.

I figured I was all set by buying an extra 90 days at home, but two weeks later, I got my draft letter, and I only had two weeks to report to the induction center.
Immediately calling my local draft board, I told them about my delayed enlistment. They just laughed and said they never heard of such a thing.

With this response, I use all my remaining time saying farewell to friends and relatives, and prepared to report to Fort Hollowbird, Maryland for induction.
My recruiter was unable to change my draft board's decision after trying several times.

So on March 8, 1966, I reported to the induction center, passed my physical
and was duly sworn in to the U.S. Army that morning. Just after lunch an Army Captain came for me, and he told me the director of the Maryland State Selective Service had called and said "Mr. Winkles can go in the U.S. Air Force
whenever he is ready".

I was told to contact my Air Force recruiter. My local draft board had called him all excited because the State Director had called them as well with the same order. My neighbor was a friend of the director and told him of my plight completely without my knowledge.

Well with my good byes said and my bags packed, I told my Air Force recruiter
to put me on the first thing smoking to San Antonio, Texas for basic. My original AFSC was supposed to be in intelligence, but it was changed to aircraft maintenance to match up with available class dates. I left Baltimore that evening on a 727.

Three days later my parents received my welcome letter to the Peace Corps and
a letter from the NIH telling me to report to work. While I avoided the draft,
I ended up spending a year in Vietnam working with Army Special Forces
as a helicopter crew chief and aerial gunner in the Air Force's only assault helicopter unit, the 20th Special Operations Squadron. I got to support covert operations in Cambodia, Laos and North and South Vietnam, so I finally got my chance to work in intelligence.

Ronald C. Winkles
SGT, U.S. Air Force (Vet)
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SPC James Zaremba
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I got mine in Dec.20th 1965 just 38 days after my 18th birthday. I was to be at the train station Jan 24, 1966, 6 am. in Warren, Ohio. Had no Idea where I was going or if I was going to be in the Army or Marines. They just walked down a line and went pointed a finger at someone and said your Army, your Marines till everyone was picked. I didn't want to go to Vietnam and maybe die, so I went to the Army Recruiter to see if there was anything he could do for me. I took a bunch of tests for about six hours, then he said that that I scored in the top 3% on the test and there was several opening for me. 1st was Officer Candidacy School, but most 2LT. went to Vietnam. Now the 2nd. was a new group called the Army Security Agency who had units all over the world but none in Vietnam. They only took people who scored in the top 3% and was an Army MI.Unit but run by the NSA. He asked if anyone in my family was ever in jail or an Illegal alien, I said no. The reason was I would have to have a Top Secret Clearance. They would check me out and would let me know while I'm in Basic or at Schooling for my MOS.Then he said I would have to sign up for 4 years which I did. Needless to say, Army Security Agency was in Vietnam it was a Top Secret Unit run by the NSA, we were the Army Spys of the 60's and 70's. We were shut down by the NSA in 1975 at the end of the Vietnam War. I have to say this was a very enjoyable time of my life worked with a lot of great guys at the 77th SOU
Clark Air Base in the Philippines and the 509th RR Gp. Davis Station, Vietnam ( yes, I went there even volunteered to go ). We were told not to talk about what we did in the Army for at least 30 years after the end of the Vietnam War as it was Classified.
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Congratulations! Did you guys have a station at Nha Trang! I worked Operation Salem House with 5ht Special Forces. I'm sure you contributed date for those missions.
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SPC James Zaremba
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A1C (Join to see) - I believe we did have an aviation unit there. I don't remember an Op. called Salem House but it's been a lot of years and so many Operations were going on at the same time. We had two to six men with just about every unit in Vietnam. We had men on both the USS Pueblo ( captured by North Korea 67 ) and in the Gulf during the 6-day war USS Liberty ( shot up and almost sunk by Israel ). We were the ones that told the Generals that Tet attack was going to happen and they ignored the info and said our intel was bad the North didn't have enough troops to pull it off.
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SP5 Dave Forrest
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I laughed out loud and asked my drill instructor if I could go home and take care of it. I was more than 1/2 though basic training.
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