Posted on Sep 24, 2017
What will it take for all states to be forced to recognize the right to carry for those with a CCH permit?
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It will take a national reciprocity law (which could be legally challenged) or a Constitutional amendment, both of which will take an enormous amount of political will across the country.
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LTC Kevin B.
PO1 Aaron Baltosser - I agreed with everything you said until "D. C has trod on its citizens repeatedly", which is opinion, stated as if it was a fact.
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PO1 Aaron Baltosser
"Declining to even review the ruling brought an impatient rebuke from Justice Clarence Thomas."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/dc-gun-ruling-again-raises-an-issue-the-supreme-court-has-been-reluctant-to-review/2017/07/30/8348527c-73c2-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.8c4fb852ae64
125 issued permits in a city issued in a city of 600,000 with more than 400 permits denied, and the District of Columbia still refuses to follow the requirements of the 2nd Amendment. That is why I chose the language I did sir.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/dc-gun-ruling-again-raises-an-issue-the-supreme-court-has-been-reluctant-to-review/2017/07/30/8348527c-73c2-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.8c4fb852ae64
125 issued permits in a city issued in a city of 600,000 with more than 400 permits denied, and the District of Columbia still refuses to follow the requirements of the 2nd Amendment. That is why I chose the language I did sir.
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CW3 Harvey K.
As I have stated elsewhere Colonel, there is little difference between a Federal national reciprocity law for "civilian" CCWs and the present LEOSA for police officers. I have not heard of any legal challenges to LEOSA, although I have seen one report of a high-ranking official in the NYCPD saying he did not intend to have any "hillbilly cops" carrying guns in his city.
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SP5 Peter Keane
CW3 Harvey K. - Doubt those hillbilly cops would even venture into NYC, let alone carry. They won't even eat the salsa.
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I agree with you. I have a CC permit from Florida when I used to live there. People will say that it isn't a right. However, I do have a right to "Life" and in my opinion, that means I have the "right" to protect myself - anytime, anywhere. Police are great, but they can't always respond in enough time to prevent a situation, if they respond at all. Heck, depending on the situation, you may not be in a position to call 911 or yell for help.
I really hope that we can make a national reciprocity law happen, even if they raise the standards to get a license. I wouldn't be opposed to more training for most civilians as the laws vary greatly from state-to-state.
I really hope that we can make a national reciprocity law happen, even if they raise the standards to get a license. I wouldn't be opposed to more training for most civilians as the laws vary greatly from state-to-state.
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Norah Julmis
Also while still walking around with their armed security. Same goes for the opinionated "stars" with their bodyguards.
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PO1 Aaron Baltosser
The conclusion you have come to matches up to the same one I have come to. After the Heller decision in 2008 the Right was reaffirmed by the Supreme Court to extend beyond the home which was the position D. C. tried to take. The idea that the Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness which includes continuing to live for me only existing in the home was the wrong one to take and the Supreme Court agreed. Why there are so many blocks to the ordinary citizen carrying a critical tool for an emergency is baffling to me.
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I've had it suggested to me that carrying concealed is not a Right, but I view it as a bit different than that. In 2008 in the Heller decision it was determined to be a Right to carry outside of the home in order to defend yourself. Many, many places do not allow open carry, and those that do, don't encourage it because of the clause 'to the terror of the public'. With the Heller decision in hand then the only way to exercise the Right would be to carry concealed. D.C. still takes a dim view of that despite being rebuked by the courts on several occasions. California, Illinois, New York and New Jersey take a similar stance.
What social, legal, or other change will it take for that Right to be recognized? marriages have to be recognized in all 50 states, and I hoped that one decision would be a springboard for the full recognition of Rights in all 50 states, but the process has been very slow.
What social, legal, or other change will it take for that Right to be recognized? marriages have to be recognized in all 50 states, and I hoped that one decision would be a springboard for the full recognition of Rights in all 50 states, but the process has been very slow.
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