Posted on Sep 19, 2019
What would be the best branch of service for my son?
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I've asked a few questions concerning ASVAB. My son is a senior this year and a good kid that I believe needs a lot of motivation and direction. I have 3 other sons so this isn't my first rodeo with observing and evaluating potential of my kids. My other 3 sons are highly motivated and successful in life. My son talked to an Air Force recruiter this week. My son is not very social and would be considered to be slightly autistic, although I would never anchor my son with a label like that. Now I am rethinking that he might need a much firmer development such as the Marines. I have the day off this morning and he drives his two younger sisters to school each morning. He was still asleep when I knocked on his door to alert him that it was time to get his sisters (and himself) to school. Evidently this is the 2nd time this week according to his sister. He has gotten better since the 8th grade about focusing on getting assignments in school completed but still has times where he gets a bad grade because he forgets a homework or that a quiz is being given. My impression of the Air Force (from two brothers and a nephew that have served) is that it is more laid back and less oversight given to soldiers. I'm wondering if the Marines or even Army would a better fit for my son? I can't force him obviously but I can strongly motivate him in a direction. I'm interested to hear feedback from you that presently serving or have served in each branch on the best fit for my son.
He is smart when applying himself and is currently 3rd academically in his small senior class of 30 kids. The funny thing about what I just wrote is that it almost mirrors myself exactly when I was his age.
He is smart when applying himself and is currently 3rd academically in his small senior class of 30 kids. The funny thing about what I just wrote is that it almost mirrors myself exactly when I was his age.
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I have served in all 3 branches Active and Reserve. I would advise him to join the Air Force Reserve. If he likes it
..go active...if not...just one weekend a month..... Air Cargo Aerialport is a good AFSC...mos...easy. Can travel the World.
..go active...if not...just one weekend a month..... Air Cargo Aerialport is a good AFSC...mos...easy. Can travel the World.
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I encourage your son to talk with recruiters from all 5 armed services, Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, and Coast Guard. The level of discipline and supervision differs from Service to Service and among specialties within each Service. Here's my opinion of the Services based only on my experience. Caution: very broad generalities abound.
-Air Force. The Air Force has a warfighting approach that differs from the other Services. The officers (pilots) are the front-line troops taking fire and steel to the enemy. Most of the enlisted personnel work supporting aircraft and aircrews and logistics infrastructure necessary to keep them flying. The Air Force has some personnel that work with space systems and provide Security Forces (somewhere between beat cops and light infantry). Because of the highly technical nature of much of the work done by enlisted personnel, there generally is a more business-like environment in the Air Force. Junior enlisted are often required to do technical tasks, such a repairing a jet engine, with moderate to light supervision. Others, such as enlisted aircrew, may work with little daily supervision and in close coordination with officers. I served 22 years and it was a good life.
-Army. The Army has a wider range of occupations than the Air Force or Marine Corps. The Combat Arms provide our Nation's capability to operate effectively on the ground to fight and win. Junior enlisted Soldiers take the fight to the enemy under the direct leadership of Sergeants. Overall discipline is probably a little tighter than the Air Force or Coast Guard. Combat Arms includes Army Aviation, which has a warfighting paradigm similar to the Air Force--officers fly and fight, enlisted support helicopters. The Army includes specialties in almost any occupation you could think of and a lot you may not. A Soldier can work in logistics, intelligence, communications, IT, medical, legal, contracting, and many other MOS. The level of supervision varies, but mostly follow the Combat Arms model of junior enlisted groups or teams working under the supervision of a sergeant. I worked for 6 years as an Army Civilian in the transportation business. The officers and NCOs I worked with were excellent Soldiers.
-Navy. It's all about the sea. The Navy has a range of specialties wider then any other Service I think. Obviously they operate large ships, like aircraft carriers, all around the world. They also operate submarines and have their own air force (Naval Aviation). This all requires a large logistical infrastructure on land and at sea. Junior enlisted sailors work under supervision of petty officers. Discipline is tight aboard ship or submarine. Ashore units may be more relaxed, but the structure of junior enlisted working for petty officers generally is the same. The Navy has all of the same logistics MOS available as the Army or Air Force. They provide logistics support functions for the Marine Corps.
-Marine Corps. The Marines are the Department of the Navy's ground forces. They do many important missions for the Navy and the DoD. They have Combat units similar to the Army, Infantry, Artillery, Aviation, etc., but differ greatly in numbers of units of any type. Discipline in the Corps is traditionally tight and Sergeants lead junior enlisted personnel to bring the fight from the sea to the enemy. Marines also work in logistics, communications, IT, and other support functions. Marines serving in "personnel other than grunts" jobs often work closely with Navy personnel to gain support for the Marines. Marines are very mission oriented. In my private sector management jobs, I would hire a former Marine over any other equally qualified applicant because Marines know how to get work done.
-Coast Guard. The Coast Guard is part of the Department of Homeland Security, but are still an armed service. They have most in common with the Navy, but have a law enforcement mission that the other four services aren't allowed to do. They are a small service compared to the others so they have limited opportunities, but have great missions. They sail a variety of ships and boats guarding the waters around and in the US. They also have an aviation department operating helicopters and a few fixed-wing aircraft. Their best known mission possibly is search and rescue. Their occupational opportunities are similar in variety to the Navy, but much smaller in number. I can't speak to their discipline or leadership philosophies, but expect they are much like the Navy.
-Air Force. The Air Force has a warfighting approach that differs from the other Services. The officers (pilots) are the front-line troops taking fire and steel to the enemy. Most of the enlisted personnel work supporting aircraft and aircrews and logistics infrastructure necessary to keep them flying. The Air Force has some personnel that work with space systems and provide Security Forces (somewhere between beat cops and light infantry). Because of the highly technical nature of much of the work done by enlisted personnel, there generally is a more business-like environment in the Air Force. Junior enlisted are often required to do technical tasks, such a repairing a jet engine, with moderate to light supervision. Others, such as enlisted aircrew, may work with little daily supervision and in close coordination with officers. I served 22 years and it was a good life.
-Army. The Army has a wider range of occupations than the Air Force or Marine Corps. The Combat Arms provide our Nation's capability to operate effectively on the ground to fight and win. Junior enlisted Soldiers take the fight to the enemy under the direct leadership of Sergeants. Overall discipline is probably a little tighter than the Air Force or Coast Guard. Combat Arms includes Army Aviation, which has a warfighting paradigm similar to the Air Force--officers fly and fight, enlisted support helicopters. The Army includes specialties in almost any occupation you could think of and a lot you may not. A Soldier can work in logistics, intelligence, communications, IT, medical, legal, contracting, and many other MOS. The level of supervision varies, but mostly follow the Combat Arms model of junior enlisted groups or teams working under the supervision of a sergeant. I worked for 6 years as an Army Civilian in the transportation business. The officers and NCOs I worked with were excellent Soldiers.
-Navy. It's all about the sea. The Navy has a range of specialties wider then any other Service I think. Obviously they operate large ships, like aircraft carriers, all around the world. They also operate submarines and have their own air force (Naval Aviation). This all requires a large logistical infrastructure on land and at sea. Junior enlisted sailors work under supervision of petty officers. Discipline is tight aboard ship or submarine. Ashore units may be more relaxed, but the structure of junior enlisted working for petty officers generally is the same. The Navy has all of the same logistics MOS available as the Army or Air Force. They provide logistics support functions for the Marine Corps.
-Marine Corps. The Marines are the Department of the Navy's ground forces. They do many important missions for the Navy and the DoD. They have Combat units similar to the Army, Infantry, Artillery, Aviation, etc., but differ greatly in numbers of units of any type. Discipline in the Corps is traditionally tight and Sergeants lead junior enlisted personnel to bring the fight from the sea to the enemy. Marines also work in logistics, communications, IT, and other support functions. Marines serving in "personnel other than grunts" jobs often work closely with Navy personnel to gain support for the Marines. Marines are very mission oriented. In my private sector management jobs, I would hire a former Marine over any other equally qualified applicant because Marines know how to get work done.
-Coast Guard. The Coast Guard is part of the Department of Homeland Security, but are still an armed service. They have most in common with the Navy, but have a law enforcement mission that the other four services aren't allowed to do. They are a small service compared to the others so they have limited opportunities, but have great missions. They sail a variety of ships and boats guarding the waters around and in the US. They also have an aviation department operating helicopters and a few fixed-wing aircraft. Their best known mission possibly is search and rescue. Their occupational opportunities are similar in variety to the Navy, but much smaller in number. I can't speak to their discipline or leadership philosophies, but expect they are much like the Navy.
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This is his choice to make. Help him with his decision, but do not try to sway him to a particular branch or MOS. He needs to make his own choices in this matter. As for his job choice, I would say have him pick one that serves his long term goals.
Also consider what he's looking for if he were to deploy. Does he want to be on a ship? On an airfield? Boots on the ground? That is how he should pick his branch of service.
Also consider what he's looking for if he were to deploy. Does he want to be on a ship? On an airfield? Boots on the ground? That is how he should pick his branch of service.
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Stephen Bracken
Any choice he makes will be good but I think but he needs a lot of guidance to make that decision. If I left him to his own desires he probably would just stay at home and do nothing.
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SPC Ted Ronayne
Stephen Bracken true, I'm sorry if I didn't communicate my message properly.
I mean my above statement in terms of MOS choice. If he wants to go infantry, support him. All too often parents (mine included) try to sway their children's choice away from what they want for reasons of safety. If your son wants to go combat arms, don't persuade him to pick 42a. If he wants to go army, don't try to convince him to go Air Force. The opposite is also true, if he wants to go support, don't try to convince him to go combat arms.
People who follow the advice of others and choose a job besides what they want more often than not become demotivated and hate their MOS... Which makes their life miserable which leads to them disliking their branch or the military as a whole... Those people often cause a lot of trouble for themselves.
By all means, encourage your son. Just be careful to ensure he's making the choices and not you.
I mean my above statement in terms of MOS choice. If he wants to go infantry, support him. All too often parents (mine included) try to sway their children's choice away from what they want for reasons of safety. If your son wants to go combat arms, don't persuade him to pick 42a. If he wants to go army, don't try to convince him to go Air Force. The opposite is also true, if he wants to go support, don't try to convince him to go combat arms.
People who follow the advice of others and choose a job besides what they want more often than not become demotivated and hate their MOS... Which makes their life miserable which leads to them disliking their branch or the military as a whole... Those people often cause a lot of trouble for themselves.
By all means, encourage your son. Just be careful to ensure he's making the choices and not you.
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SPC Ted Ronayne
Stephen Bracken one other thing though, if he doesn't want to join... His best bet is to not join.
If he doesn't want to be there then he won't survive the stress of TRADOC. The drill sergeants will remind him from day one that "you volunteered, you asked for this, you're just getting what you signed up for."
Those of us who excelled did so because while that was being screamed at us while we were in the front leaning rest, we knew we wanted to be there. There were those of us who didn't truly want to be there, and they got booted, and their lives were pretty miserable until they got on the bus out.
If your son wants to join, all the power to him. He will be best off if he digs deep and finds something to motivate him. That's what me and my buddies did, and that's why we were able to push through the stress of basic.
If he doesn't want to be there then he won't survive the stress of TRADOC. The drill sergeants will remind him from day one that "you volunteered, you asked for this, you're just getting what you signed up for."
Those of us who excelled did so because while that was being screamed at us while we were in the front leaning rest, we knew we wanted to be there. There were those of us who didn't truly want to be there, and they got booted, and their lives were pretty miserable until they got on the bus out.
If your son wants to join, all the power to him. He will be best off if he digs deep and finds something to motivate him. That's what me and my buddies did, and that's why we were able to push through the stress of basic.
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It really just depends on what kind of career he wants. Each branch has it's own individual perk. If he just wants to be a grunt and that's it, then Marines or Infantry is his game, however, it just depends on what he wants to do with his life...instead of thinking fives years in the future, think about twenty years in the future; what post military career does he want? what is his passion? Think of it that way and the answer of what branch and MOS will come to him. Example: I've always loved law enforcement and I plan on moving in to FBI or DEA, so, being an MP was my choice of career in the Army.
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I beg to differ on someone needing help from a parent to make their children's decisions about where they will feel better suited to serve. You might be making a decision that could make or break the person. Would you like to be the person's decision as to commit suicide or not if they can't fit in? That should be something to consider. If you want your child to get it together by joining the service, maybe the thing to do is encourage them to join the service of their choosing, and if you wish to influence them, then perhaps advise them on the job they want to do. The ASVAB will also be a deciding factor as to the service pick and the various jobs they get in the military. Please do yourself a favor and encourage them towards what the ASVAB dictates.
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Sir, I can not say which would be the best for your son, but I can offer a little hope.
My nephew is technically on the spectrum, however sharing some of your son's characteristics did not prevent him from becoming a Sergeant in MOS 19D Cavalry Scout. He served multiple tours in Southeast Asia and now lives happily with a wife and children in Texas.
My nephew is technically on the spectrum, however sharing some of your son's characteristics did not prevent him from becoming a Sergeant in MOS 19D Cavalry Scout. He served multiple tours in Southeast Asia and now lives happily with a wife and children in Texas.
Almost a year later and my son is heading out for Navy bootcamp and then to AIT as Machinist mate. The Covid virus has reduced bootcamp to 2 weeks quarantine and 5 weeks bootcamp.
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My son has an appt with the Army recruiter tomorrow morning. I'll then set up an appt for the Marine recruiter next week.
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Sgt (Join to see)
Your son needs to have a desire to enlist after talking to the recruiters. The military life is not for everyone.
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