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I am currently looking at joining the Army National Guard. I have been out of the Army Reserves since 2004. I am interested in commissioning but the recruiter wants me to re-enlist at my old MOS as a 92G. He thinks it would be better to do a one year contract and then drop an OCS packet after I am in a unit. If I am picked up for OCS I would sign a new contract, if not he says I will then have an out if I wanted to take it. During my time out I went to school and got my bachelors and masters. I have been working as an HR Director/Associate Hospital Administrator. I had questions about direct Commission into the AMEDD, but he didn’t address that question much. As a side note I hope to start law school in the fall.
I also would want to change my MOS if I had to re-enlist. Would that process be difficult? Right now he says sticking with 92G is the most simple and straight forward route to get me back in.
I wanted to get some thoughts on this process he has laid out for me.
I also would want to change my MOS if I had to re-enlist. Would that process be difficult? Right now he says sticking with 92G is the most simple and straight forward route to get me back in.
I wanted to get some thoughts on this process he has laid out for me.
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Posted 7 y ago
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LTC Charles T Dalbec
It has nothing to do about credit but what is proper for the applicant!! Hooah??
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CPT Daniel Cox
LTC Charles T Dalbec - The problem with the written word is you cannot tell if what is said is sarcasm or not. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and saying it was.
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You can enlist as an O9S (OCS cadet) and in 18 months (traditional route) you will obtain a commission. You can compete for accelerated, which is much shorter in duration, but will need to start in zero phase. Do not let a recruiter tell you this is not an option unless you do not meet the prerequisites/eligibility requirements, e.g., GT score of 110.
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I would look for an amedd recruiter and not use a regular recruiter if you want to try to get dcs slot. Especially if you want to branch MSC if you are looking for something else then I would look at the law school route and become jagg.
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MAJ (Join to see)
SSG (Join to see) are you referring to the enlisted recruiter? They can process you for OCS and you can elect to branch MS. Keep in mind, however, that you need to be USAREC boarded to be appointed into the AMEDD. If you’re referring to the AMEDD recruiters, they may not have much of a mission for 70 series officers.
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MAJ (Join to see) I'm referring to the AMEDD side, most AMEDD recruiters will only speak to you once you are accepted to a medical school or nursing program.
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CPT Enrique M.
SSG (Join to see) - That is not correct. they work with non medical/nursing as AMEDD consists of 6 different branches. ( MS, SP, DC, MC , AN , VC)
For example MS has everything from IT , to clinical lab scientists
So they will talk to you if you have skillsets that line up to their mission and what branch you are going into within AMEDD.
For example MS has everything from IT , to clinical lab scientists
So they will talk to you if you have skillsets that line up to their mission and what branch you are going into within AMEDD.
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Pursue the commission. I am currently working as a Recruiter. A lot of times Recruiters will tell applicants to enlist because, 1. It's an easier contract to write and quicker or 2. They legitimately don't know how to process an OCS applicant. It's not hard but it is time consuming and they don't teach it at the Army Recruiting Course, at least not when I went through in 2015, this means the Recruiter has to learn it from someone in his station or figure it out on his own making it more time consuming. I personally didn't learn how to do it until 2.5 years into my current assignment.
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PFC D B: I am a proud OCS graduate of class 1-90. I would not enlist and wait a year to "drop an OCS packet." Granted, if you are looking at joining the Guard, I understand there are different regs in place. But too many things, like "life" can happen and you may NEVER get an OCS packet in and attend. The recruiter, God love him, has a mission to make and while he may seem to have your best interests in mind, he might be looking at you as a soldier he needs to make mission. I'll add this. I am retired Army and currently work in Admissions at a private, 4 year university that also has a law school. If you have Law School in mind, it seems like you haven't really decided on what you want to do and when you want to do it. Please don't take that as an hit on you. I applaud you for finishing your bachelors and masters degrees. Education is great but getting into OCS and law school is going to be tough to manage. Thank you for your service. Go Army!
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Hospital Administrator is in the AMEDD DC program for MSC. Take the advice of the others and contact an AMEDD recruiter.
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Speak to a professional recruiter that specializes in Direct Commissions for lawyers, Doctors, etc. Do your research via the internet as well. If you want a commission in your specialty follow that dream. As for the recruiter needing credit dont believe that BS alot of times recruiters are young and on their second enlistement so they dont have much experience or knowledge. Lastly not sure if this is an option but talk to a career planner if able. Good luck!
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Recruitment is complicated. Any NG works differently than RA or USAR. The Army has AMEDD recruiters, but when I was in, these were for RA and USAR not NG. If your goal is law school, what benefits you the most? Sounds like you just need to slow down and get some more information.
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RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN and find a recruiter willing to help you meet your goals. I was told when I came back in after 7 years out that a particular job was not available and since at the time I was a restaurant manager I should come back in as a COOK! I said no thanks and told him I was leaving...the point is, you have to stand by what you want your goals to be assuming you qualify to be an officer. No one else has your best interest like you do. Stick to that.
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You need to speak to an Army Medical Department Recruiter. Go to the Goarmy.com page and pull up the Healthcare section. You'd be looking at 70B or 70A. I was a direct commission from enlisted and this is the only way to get the information you need if you want to work in the area for which you are qualified (MHA/MPA/MBA). The National Guard recruiter has quotas to fill and you will be very unlikely to obtain a 70B slot through a state OCS program.
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1. It’s much better to work from within the system. So as a DA HR Senior Personnel Guru I agree with Recruiter.
2. What Branch are you seeking? As chances of AMEDD are not favorable if you are not already an AMEDD Soldier.
3. Without MOS Qualifucation what makes you think the Army wants to invest in you???
4. Therefore the recruiter and 92Golf is the way to go
Does that open your eyes up my fellow Soldier? Direct Appointment is a no go unless you are a Chaplain, Lawyer or Medical professional. Seek assistance beyond the recruiter and contact a RTD NCO at the AMEDD command for advice and assistance .
2. What Branch are you seeking? As chances of AMEDD are not favorable if you are not already an AMEDD Soldier.
3. Without MOS Qualifucation what makes you think the Army wants to invest in you???
4. Therefore the recruiter and 92Golf is the way to go
Does that open your eyes up my fellow Soldier? Direct Appointment is a no go unless you are a Chaplain, Lawyer or Medical professional. Seek assistance beyond the recruiter and contact a RTD NCO at the AMEDD command for advice and assistance .
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Find an armed recruiter, regular recruiters know very little about the med side. If you direct commission as a reserve medical officer bonuses and Bolc are way better.
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And I understand what you're being told, it's obv your choice...however, you really should call AMEDD recruiters directly, or equiv clinical recruiters for Navy and USAF, as well, and explain about tour paw interests, as well as USPHS, in my view, honest....
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Also, look up AFIT and the Naval Postgraduate School (NPS), as well as the Uniformed Svcs Univ of Health Sci (USUHS) PhD programs, USUHS is a tenant at Bethesda Naval Med Ctr near NIH...look up also the Natl Library of Med (NLM) fellowships in HIM through NIH as well, OK?
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Ok sounds like you got a lot going on?
1. Have you been accepted into Law school yet?
1. Have you been accepted into Law school yet?
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There are not a lot of mechanisms for direct commissions. His advice is not bad, just different than you thoughts. Identify your options and go with it.
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If it were I, Private First Class Blackwell: I would opt for the Commission.
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As a former recruiter the selection the process is terribly slow and beuracratic. It is actually better to get in and start the process. I did one and it took 1 1/2 years in which time she hot pregnant. All a waste.
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That’s because the recruiter would get ‘quick credit’ instead of go through the commissioning process. Selfish on the recruiters part!!
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Please keep in mind that the fastest credit for an Army Recruiter is to put you in a unit in previous MOS. That being said the recruiter is more interested in making monthly mission than satisfying the needs wants and desires of ‘you’ the applicant. Seek what you want and apply yourself to getting it. It’s you not the recruiter that will have to live with the outcome. I hope you understand what I’m saying DB
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