Posted on Mar 31, 2016
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Navy's top enlisted leader is wrapping up job title review. Intent is to remove "man" from job titles, such as corpsman, to make them gender neutral. All Air Force members are referred to as "airmen" and three enlisted ranks include "man" in their title. What would you suggest as an alternative to "airman"? (You can have fun with this, but serious alternatives also are appreciated.)
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It depends on how far one is willing to go to alter the military tradition(s) we had over the years. Why fix something that's broken? But as far as " equality " is concerned, people should stop being overly sensitive about stupid little things that has nothing to do with winning the war on radicalism. So, with that being said, stop being sensitive, grow a pair, and worry about something that will impact the future of this nation.
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SPC Jason Sharp
"Why fix something that's broken?" Did you miss something here or is this supposed to be rhetorical? Many traditions have been slowly going by the wayside over the last twenty years, so slowly no one really noticed. Every notice no one in the Army knows how to march anymore? They do not train initial entry soldiers drill and ceremonies anymore. That's why ALL formation marches look like crap. They have already stated that Drill Sergeants can't call initial entry soldiers "privates" or point at them (even with the knife hand), because they are demeaning.
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Only an idiot would join the Air Force or so I was told by many who had so that term should be considered. One sailor from west Texas I served with had joined the Air Force to see the world and spent his entire 4 years in Texas. He said the day he was discharged he went to the Navy recruiter and enlisted. He told the recruiter he never wanted to see Texas again and never did. He made E-9 in 16 years became a CWO-4 and served for 30 years and a friend of his from their time together in the Air Force who out ranked him when he left stayed in never made E-7 in 20 years of service. Only an idiot would do that.
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Why not use the traditional titles for members of the services in question? I have, on occasion, heard Sailors referred to as squids. How does Radiosquid 2d Class sound? Or Deckape Third? As for our colleagues in the Air Force certain traditional tags like flyboy won't work, but there is one old tag that fits - Airdale. Airdale Basic, Airdale First, Airdale Etc. They virtually trip off the tongue.
Another way to deal with this obviously critical strategic problem of global proportions is for the "Navy's top enlisted leader" to stop wasting his time on this and find a real live issue to spend our money on.
Another way to deal with this obviously critical strategic problem of global proportions is for the "Navy's top enlisted leader" to stop wasting his time on this and find a real live issue to spend our money on.
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As a female in the aviation community in the Navy I was at one time called an Airman and the term never bothered me. My gender has nothing to do with my title. I think it would be a mistake to take man out of titles. We might as well stop calling Navy personnel Sailors since it conjures up images of drinking and womanizing. You can only change the military so much before you ruin it.
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Etymology teaches that the term man can trace it's roots, in part, to the Germanic phrases wǣpmann and wīfmann, which means male person and female person respectively. It was adopted by English speakers and shortened to just "mann" which is defined as "human being, person (male or female); brave man, hero; servant, vassal,". The word has since been shortened to being spelled with a single "n" roughly five or six hundred years ago. So the terms "airman", "corpsman", etc. are in fact already gender neutral.
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