Posted on Mar 31, 2016
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Navy's top enlisted leader is wrapping up job title review. Intent is to remove "man" from job titles, such as corpsman, to make them gender neutral. All Air Force members are referred to as "airmen" and three enlisted ranks include "man" in their title. What would you suggest as an alternative to "airman"? (You can have fun with this, but serious alternatives also are appreciated.)
Edited 10 y ago
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Does our leadership not have enough to worry about than this stuff leave it alone
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Perhaps we should take the "man" out of woman and just call them Woms? Man is also a generic term for human. If it offends you, your the problem not society.
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Wait. SecNav wants to change "Corpsman"? How many words do we have to shout now to get somebody up to treat our wounded? Even when the rate was Pharmacists Mate, the cry on the battlefield was "Corpsman! Corpsman!"
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If we HAVE to change it;
Go back to our AAC heritage. I don't have a good replacement for airman, but for the ranks: E1 Private. E2 PV2. E3 PFC. E4 corporal. Just my $0.02.
Go back to our AAC heritage. I don't have a good replacement for airman, but for the ranks: E1 Private. E2 PV2. E3 PFC. E4 corporal. Just my $0.02.
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For those who still remember their English lessons the term "man" refers to "mankind" so leave the terms alone.
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Well while we're at it why don't we eliminate the term man, By doing so you could use female or male when gender use is necessary, at least until someone is offe ded by that also. Refer to everyone as soldier? We as a society are becoming to sensitive, if we go to war I certainly hope this insane need to be offended by everything goes away or it will not go well for us. I think that people who use words with obvious intent to offend should be held accountable, but to restructure society and the military for this kind of thing is every bit as bad for morale as the the terminology we are trying to change. Historically man can and has been used in a gender neutral sense. Would female care to be called WOs just to get rid of the MAN?
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You don't need an alternative; those titles are already gender neutral. Woman and women both contain 'man' or 'men'. I don't think the Navy's study intended to remove the word man from all titles; only those where man or men was separated from the base word. Midshipman for example would not change; if I read the intent of that study correctly.
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If this is bothering any of the women in the military, in my opinion, they probably don't belong in the military. So what if "man" is in the title. If you are doing the job the to the best of your ability an they don't care whether you are male or female, there is not a problem. It's just a title and usually those titles are only used in conjunction with large groups, very rarely one gets called out that individually, but still. It is just a title or a name. We are not individuals in the military but a team. If you stick out for outstanding performance and what not, then and at that time, is it good to be individualized. I am getting off track here. If one is worried about their title not being gender specific, they are probably also bitching about other things that seem unfair as well. I mean they started allowing women to let their hair grow and not get cut in boot camp, I also don't think that was a good idea. Yes, there are differences in women and men, but a title does not remove those differences. If the military starts being so politically correct, are they going to start writing people up for swearing as well.
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