Posted on Mar 31, 2016
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Navy's top enlisted leader is wrapping up job title review. Intent is to remove "man" from job titles, such as corpsman, to make them gender neutral. All Air Force members are referred to as "airmen" and three enlisted ranks include "man" in their title. What would you suggest as an alternative to "airman"? (You can have fun with this, but serious alternatives also are appreciated.)
Edited 10 y ago
Posted 10 y ago
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Is this really the kind of thing our "leadership" is spending their time and energy worrying about??? I would think pay, benefits, education, housing, upgrading equipment, things like that would be bigger issues to spend their resources on, instead of this PC crap trying to please all the people all the time. That's just me!
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SSgt John Berry
Although I am not as wordy as you are. You think gender neutral titles and clothing will make any perceived discrimination go away. Really? How about we just make choices based on merit and character instead of some made up title?
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I'd say " Wing Nuts". Having worked on AF Bases, active duty Squid it seemed to me it is not what is said but how it is said. "The AF...Our AF,etc." included both. Other times I could say AF Members. There is also times when addressing individuals or specifying a member I would use rank. Airman or Air Woman also came in to use.
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Maj (Join to see)
I've never heard the term Air Woman and I've been around the Air Force my entire life.
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PO2 Patrick Dwyer
What did you fly ? I was at Eglin's 33RD through the 90's and Keesler Reg Med Ctr till 2008 and " We" as civilians used it to accurately describe someone..along with Female
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Political correctness is alive and well in the military. When and where does this stop? Traditional titles and positions are becoming history because they "may" offend "some" people. Ok, so will women no longer wear skirts, nylons, etc., but eventually be required to "only" wear mens uniform combinations? Will it become mandatory to have their heads shaved at Boot? I just don't get it. The military is what the military is, period, and it will "never" be able to please everyone 100% of the time. I've talked to "Full Birds" who have expressed serious concerns about the gender neutral approach and the adverse affect on morale. I'm all for opening doors for females and creating more opportunities in the military, but the never ending pursuit of PC is out of control. The military is suppose to build character, discipline, and esprit de corps, not cater to personal whims or thin skinned whiners. I can't help but wonder who is really in charge?
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I love it the only people really getting their shorts all in a bundle over this is people who arent in "civilians" yes we work for them but tradition history culture has a part to play and since they arent in they dont get it they are trying to champion a cause that really doesnt need championing at the moment.
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I though that WOMAN, stand for with out man, LOL, well Sir, I am sorry it is funny. But let it stay the same, as in the Army, those woman that wants to go into the infantry, they will be call Infantry Man, or soldiers.
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PO1 James Trombley
Over the years I have seen many trades change their job titles to technician. Mechanics are now auto techs, EMS are now medical techs and so on. I think it is the use of technology in most fields that makes tech appropriate.
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Not a big fan of gender neutral but if I was to keep it simple I would merely call them "Airmember!" Or, Air Force Member Smith, etc.
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