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Navy's top enlisted leader is wrapping up job title review. Intent is to remove "man" from job titles, such as corpsman, to make them gender neutral. All Air Force members are referred to as "airmen" and three enlisted ranks include "man" in their title. What would you suggest as an alternative to "airman"? (You can have fun with this, but serious alternatives also are appreciated.)
Edited 10 y ago
Posted 10 y ago
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Well ladies and gentlemen, The word woman has "Man" in it and the plural form women has "Men" in it so why the concern over a rank or title. These men and women know who they are and what the speaker is referring to when they use the term Airman or Airmen in the Air Force. If you feel foolish about calling a female corpman a Corpman then call them all medics, it works great in the ARMY.....simple huh? Geez I should join the Navy and straighten them out. Tell that politically correct E-9 that's all worried that this needs to be changed and ask him or her to retire. We have more important things to concern ourselves with like a livable wage and retirement for our Armed Forces personnel. better death benefits for the family survivors, better medical support when they come home with debilitating injuries, suicide prevention and support for vets suffering from PTSD and better care for our aging veteran population.
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come on now, this nonsense has to stop, since when did everyone become so damn sensitive, there is nothing wrong with airman or corpsman. fireman or policeman, etc. if you are going to do a job then do the job, why does gender have to come into it. if you are qualified, whether man or woman, then be proud, we dont have to point out if you are a woman, whats that suppose to prove, that you should get special treatment because you are female, or be treated like you are special because you as a female qualified as well as a man did. man has always been used as a neutral term in just about everything for as long as i can remember and i personally have never been offended by it.
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CPT Richard Fematt
Well said SrA Stewart you can be in my unit anytime...you actually have it right, no one is more special than others we all have a job to do so put away the political correct BS and focus on the mission!!!
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I would not change it, neither should it be changed. If CorpsMAN and AirMAN need to be changed because it says MAN in it then we have to re-evolve our language. Because we now have to change HuMAN and WoMAN, which both contain MAN and both encompass and refer to the FeMALE gender.
You cannot get away from Man, Men or Male when referring to Women, so the job titles are still all encompassing to both genders.
You cannot get away from Man, Men or Male when referring to Women, so the job titles are still all encompassing to both genders.
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I see no reason why airmen should be changed, as it is accepted as gender neutral to begin with. If the majority of the female military members have no objections in changing it, then let it remain airmen. Sometimes, we take things to the extreme for no good reasons at all.
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CPT Quentin von Éfáns-Taráfdar
Why not call all Air Force personnel "Angels" . Angels are gender neutral and they have wings!
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When I was in the service (WW 2 and Korean War) we had females (WAC's and WAVES) serving and there were no complaints about titles. Political correctness has turned our country into a world I don't recognize. I guess some would want to designate lower ranking sailors as "Sea persons" or "Fire persons" and some Petty Officers as "Yeo persons" but personally I think it is nuts. If the titles are going to be changed it must be something that doesn't sound too wimpy. For the life of me I cannot think what that might be.
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I would agree with the comments that Airmen works just fine. I am proud to be an Airmen as well as a soldier USA. The PC stuff is not helpful and distracts from the mission.
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Well personally I find this a ridiculous gesture. Just like in all military documents the noun he is used in a gender neutral sense. People need too put on their adult undergarments and quit whining about stupid stuff.
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How about airhumans. Perhaps that won't offend those posturing liberal D-bags that are ruining this great country.
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CPT Quentin von Éfáns-Taráfdar
Perhaps these posturing liberals should be labeled "airhumbugs". For years I have referred to them as liberalatti.
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CCMSgt (Join to see)
Then you have the otherkins
https://selahministriesblog.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/otherkin-8.jpg
https://selahministriesblog.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/otherkin-8.jpg
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LTC Andrae Evans
CPT Quentin, a Lot of this discussions do not come from liberals. Remember the log cabin republicans! MAJ John Gregg the word MAN ks still in HuMAN. This crap started in the 70 to castrate our male dominate societies by castrating MAN. I also agree that male dominance was an issue, you cannot suppress, or oppress 50% of humankind and not eventually expect retaliation. We are a lot further ahead than where we were, now this sort of whitewashing is just stupid!
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Keep your heritage A bullet doesn't know such things as race rank or gender...... This is what keeps the corps for now as prideful as it is we lean on traditions as the markings of who we are ,so have pride in your ranks and stop losing your spine to the PC police
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