Posted on Jan 18, 2018

What would you do if you had a soldier with a permanent profile (for running) and you saw this soldier running for exercise?

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CW3 Kevin Storm

Posted >1 y ago

Read the profile before passing judgment. Many of them will state something to the effect "may run up to one mile."

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CH (LTC) Robert Leroe

Posted >1 y ago

Some profiles indicate that some individuals can only run at their own pace, which exempts them from running in formation.

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LTC Donell Kelly

Posted >1 y ago

I'd refer him to the local Medcen/DOD hospital with a request for an appropriate physician to evaluate the soldier. I'd also ask for his/her prior medical records/civilian medical records to determine why the soldier got a permanent profile in the first place.
Then, with the medical experts opinion, based on clinical evaluations & original conditions for permanent profile, would either have the permanent profile amended &/or discontinued.

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...or you could read the profile...

SGT Joseph Gunderson

Posted >1 y ago

You document it and have them recommended for UCMJ action for malingering. Simple as that. However, it may be difficult to go all the way through with it unless you are able to pull out a camera and get a video of them.

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SGT Joseph Gunderson

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SFC Thomas Foreman a 3 on legs will prevent anyone from running. And I haven't seen a permanent profile granted with less than a 3 rating.

The question stated the SM has a perm profile barring them from running. I can assume they have seen the profile then. So, if they have seen and know the terms of the profile and see the SM breaking it, that SM can be disciplined for malingering.

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SGT Joseph Gunderson it says they have a permanent profile “for running”

I’m not trying to cause an argument where there doesn’t need to be one but the verbiage of the profile is critical to how I’d proceed. And since I don’t have that verbiage, I have to assume it’s in line with most of the others I’ve seen...

For reference, I was a training NCO for 5 years and part of my job was to help soldiers navigate the profile/medboard process...almost every profile I’ve seen “for running” ended up “run at own pace and distance” which is the justification for an alternate aerobic event...

SGT Joseph Gunderson

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SFC Thomas Foreman I had a profile that barred me from running for my last year.

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SGT Joseph Gunderson that was specific to you. I have one that specifically says “no sit-ups” (bad discs” but I fought to be able to still run. Pretty sure it’s a P2, but I haven’t looked in a while

SFC George Smith

Posted >1 y ago

get Photos/Videos and Nail him/her to the 1st SGT's wall might want to Go to the BN Surgeon's Office

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Everyone wants to nail the guy to the wall when you all know damn well a “no running” profile is pretty rare and they almost always say “soldier may run at own pace and distance”

Video camera surveillance? Really?

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Posted 7 y ago

THE soldiers profile will say or run at own pace or distance or walk at own pace and distance
or simply walk , bike , swim as alternate events in pt and pt test

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SSG (ret) William Martin

Posted >1 y ago

I would ask him what was going on. Was he running a marathon or doing a ten miler? That might be a problem. If he said he was testing out his ability under the care of his PCM I don't see a problem with it.

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