Posted on May 5, 2016
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Two female Soldiers >40 years old:
Soldier A - 63” tall 126 lbs. Body Composition Tape: 26% Army Wellness Center Pod: 27%
Soldier B - 64” tall 173 lbs. Body Composition Tape: 25% Army Wellness Center Pod: Refused

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SGT Human Resources Specialist
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Just observing something. Over 40 means as a female you have 36% body fat. The bummer being if you are shorter than 63, you end up taping over. If she has gotten away with it, then you wonder who she's sleeping with. If it's a PCS, I think it even says in AR 600-9 you do have to weigh in at both the leaving unit and the receiving unit. So one way or the other she gets caught. With the 280,000 they are kicking out for failing h/w and pt, you can't escape forever.
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PO2 Rich Pratt
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We had an XO, LCDR, on my sub that pressure rested his uniforms. When we did our PRT the chief running it would call out your time as you finished the run, except the XO would call out his time when he finished. Our goal was to cross the finish line right before the XO, one time we actually smoke a cigarette during the run.

It was common knowledge on the boat, but I don’t think anything was ever official done about it.
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MSG Retired
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This is the same type of person who would be ok doing this for themselves but would fry anyone else that got caught doing it.
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SFC Jimmy Williams
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I have been retired more than 20 years and this was an issue then. When the army established the Height and weight tables as a discriminator, they opened Pandora's box. Instead of letting performance and appearance be the determining factor, they created an animal that hey have never been able to tame. I knew a major who was a great leader, physically fit, and was one of the best officers I ever saw. But when the comment about being within height and weight standards according to girth measurement was put on his OER, his career was capped. He was retired at 20 years while other lesser officers who were "skinny" went on to be promoted beyond their ability. The military has always had leaders who had their favorites that they held to lesser standards that they required of others. It has never been fair, but it is a fact. I worked for a captain who got a DWI. The Colonel we worked for was called at 0200hrs to pick him up at the Heidelberg MPStation (we were in KTown). I ran into him a few years later and he was a major. I don't need to tell you most soldiers would not be able to do that.
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SGT Charles Kovach
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Had an NCO in mast unit get busted down from SSG to SGT for forging his pt card. She needs to be disciplined accordingly
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LCpl Jeff Moore
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If she submitted false paperwork, call CID.
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MAJ C Co E Liaison Officer To I Cdid
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The wellness pod is a tool, but can’t be used for the ABCP. It isn’t covered in the regulation and is actually considered medical info, so it falls under HIPPA. It isn’t releasable information; you can’t compel a Soldier to provide the data. We only have the Army tape test as an official system of measurement. It isn’t the best or most accurate test, but it is the most cost effective and expedient method we have.
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CPT William Jones
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An officer signs a document and that verifies that to the officers knowledge all facts are true as if they were making a sworn statement. If one filed a document over their signature they knew was incorrect that is proof of making a false statement and they are subject to adverse action up to and including court martial an officers signature on any document certifies it is correct.
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CPT Jeff Robinette
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Just my opinion I on alone but as long as the soldier can do their Job; pass a PT test, and present a professional appearance I don't care much about height and weight standards. Those standards are artificial. And do not reflect a soldiers abilities.
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SFC Platoon Sergeant
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I would get with the hhc 1sg and have them schedule a diagnostic apft with a hw. The tape won’t lie and when they bust 600-9 flag time a standard is a standard. Height and weight is always a standard pt test can be manipulated by diagnostic or record for now. That little half inch clothe tape is a game changer
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