Posted on May 5, 2016
What would you do if you knew a MAJ submitted a fraudulent DA Form 705 APFT & DA Form 5500 Body Composition in a packet?
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Here is a point of reference:
Two female Soldiers >40 years old:
Soldier A - 63” tall 126 lbs. Body Composition Tape: 26% Army Wellness Center Pod: 27%
Soldier B - 64” tall 173 lbs. Body Composition Tape: 25% Army Wellness Center Pod: Refused
Discuss.....
Here is a point of reference:
Two female Soldiers >40 years old:
Soldier A - 63” tall 126 lbs. Body Composition Tape: 26% Army Wellness Center Pod: 27%
Soldier B - 64” tall 173 lbs. Body Composition Tape: 25% Army Wellness Center Pod: Refused
Discuss.....
Integrity
APFT
Misconduct
Character
What Would You Do
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RFI
Define "know" or give background and context into how you know something as fact or is this an assumption based on observable information and intangibles say perception of physical appearance
Define "know" or give background and context into how you know something as fact or is this an assumption based on observable information and intangibles say perception of physical appearance
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Good Morning CSM Jane Baldwin. No i get most of it. What does Wellness Center Pod mean?
Also Is there a reference For Male Soldiers?
Also Is there a reference For Male Soldiers?
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My question would be "How did it get past the HHC CDR?" We had a Major try that in my unit (BDE HHC) and the Company Commander had to counsel her and then pass those documents to the BDE DCO. Regardless, if you don't outrank that individual I would still approach the BN XO or CSM so they can have the BN CDR address it and possible action a LOR.
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This is sad, but welcome to the new Army. We have soldiers coming directly from training to the RSP that cannot pass an APFT at 17 to 21 years old. They get a pass. This is getting ridiculous. Where did the standard go? I would definitely report my concerns about the APFT and 5500 from the MAJ.
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The only thing that I KNOW does not apply to General Officers is 670-1. General Officers can mix and match uniforms as they please. HOWEVER, every other regulation clearly applies. AR 600-9 is not a respecter of rank.
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SGT(P) (Join to see)
CSM (Join to see) - Anyone that has ever been in the overweight program has been through the brief. I will have to look up the exact reg for you. Give me til tomorrow. There are 3 population groups in the army that are exempt from Army Body Composition. Pregnant females, amputees, general officers.
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SGT(P) (Join to see)
It is very possible that I could be in error in my previous statement. I have looked and can not locate where it exempts general officers. My apologies CSM
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Is there also a statement about presenting a neat and soldierly appearance in uniform. My meaning is just because the number work, there is a photo and are you a duffle bag or are you a soldier. Does it pass the sniff test. Does the major look like they could pass the Apft /h+w standards.
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If she lies about this what else does she lie about? Officers should be held to a higher standard especially in light of the fact they hold their subordinates to high standards.
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I love Viktor Frankl's writings. He wrote, "Man's Search for Meaning" and it is a must read for everyone.
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