Posted on Apr 27, 2016
What would you do if your CSM was ignoring uniform and grooming standards? (CSM Flournoy)
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So this CSM from the the 8th MP BDE seems to be out of regulations. From the comments she has been corrected but she claims she is being harassed. I don't even understand how she got to be a CSM at a BDE. What COL out there is letting this happen? In one of the photos she is wearing stilettos in uniform. WTF? What kind of example is this. The worst is from a Facebook user that said:
"This one!!!! Holy **** she was in charge of us in Afghanistan!! I could go on and on about this toxic leader!! Trying to maintain professionalism but this one.....when a CSM so jacked up like this, she was laughing her ass off during our rehearsal of my brothers ceremony after he was killed in Afghanistan, she f***ing yelled at me because I "took too long saying my goodbye " as I'm f***ing crying kneeling in front of it. This post will probably get me in trouble, and ruin the rest of my army career as well as my day and my army experience."
What would you do if you were there? What if you were on command?
What should the Army do about this?
(Thanks to Army MP WTF Moments and it's followers for the photos.)
**************UPDATE************************
The 8th Theater Sustainment Command CSM will be travelling to the 8th MP BDE to have some one on one time with this CSM. It is amazing as leaders will do when they are being called out. He should have done that a long time ago.
"This one!!!! Holy **** she was in charge of us in Afghanistan!! I could go on and on about this toxic leader!! Trying to maintain professionalism but this one.....when a CSM so jacked up like this, she was laughing her ass off during our rehearsal of my brothers ceremony after he was killed in Afghanistan, she f***ing yelled at me because I "took too long saying my goodbye " as I'm f***ing crying kneeling in front of it. This post will probably get me in trouble, and ruin the rest of my army career as well as my day and my army experience."
What would you do if you were there? What if you were on command?
What should the Army do about this?
(Thanks to Army MP WTF Moments and it's followers for the photos.)
**************UPDATE************************
The 8th Theater Sustainment Command CSM will be travelling to the 8th MP BDE to have some one on one time with this CSM. It is amazing as leaders will do when they are being called out. He should have done that a long time ago.
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We all know the situation. Seen it before. She's bulletproof as a protected class. Never should have been a Sergeant much less a Sergeant Major. Too many times.
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The time has come replace "Affirmative" Action with "Decisive" Action.
The best effort gets the job!
The first "Action" step has been taken to task as "Affirmative" Action. Now is the time for the second step "Decisive" Action is long over-due.
America has passed the "tipping" point of Affirmative Action. Decisive Action will promote fair and balanced decisions based on qualifications with results.
The best effort gets the job!
The first "Action" step has been taken to task as "Affirmative" Action. Now is the time for the second step "Decisive" Action is long over-due.
America has passed the "tipping" point of Affirmative Action. Decisive Action will promote fair and balanced decisions based on qualifications with results.
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I'll tell you what I wouldn't do, and that is post anything containing pics, name or command information on any social media. I understand the frustration expressed by many here and on other social media, but the military, but it's still not the appropriate place to air things like this in the open.
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No way. She needs to loose a large amount of that hair. Guys have their hair short, women should have shoulder length, or at least in a bun a third the size of hers.
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SGT John Hamby
i agree with you 100%, SGT, and all it would take is a set of clippers & a #4 Blade Guide, and problem solved!
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Is this type of behavior becoming a trend? We have a MSG out of control. No matter how many people complain about him the CSM at Bde closes ranks to project "one of their own."
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CPT Russell Pitre
That is just crap. The NCO Corps is not what it used to. It is more of a good ol boy
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There has been some pictures that surfaced with her wearing two stars on her NDSM. I'm a little confused at how a CSM doesn't know how many accouterments to wear and how to wear them. She holds promotion boards does she not?
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CSM not leading by example . Very toxic to lower enlisted soldiers sends a confusing message DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO. Complete failure within the CoC.
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