Posted on Apr 27, 2016
What would you do if your CSM was ignoring uniform and grooming standards? (CSM Flournoy)
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So this CSM from the the 8th MP BDE seems to be out of regulations. From the comments she has been corrected but she claims she is being harassed. I don't even understand how she got to be a CSM at a BDE. What COL out there is letting this happen? In one of the photos she is wearing stilettos in uniform. WTF? What kind of example is this. The worst is from a Facebook user that said:
"This one!!!! Holy **** she was in charge of us in Afghanistan!! I could go on and on about this toxic leader!! Trying to maintain professionalism but this one.....when a CSM so jacked up like this, she was laughing her ass off during our rehearsal of my brothers ceremony after he was killed in Afghanistan, she f***ing yelled at me because I "took too long saying my goodbye " as I'm f***ing crying kneeling in front of it. This post will probably get me in trouble, and ruin the rest of my army career as well as my day and my army experience."
What would you do if you were there? What if you were on command?
What should the Army do about this?
(Thanks to Army MP WTF Moments and it's followers for the photos.)
**************UPDATE************************
The 8th Theater Sustainment Command CSM will be travelling to the 8th MP BDE to have some one on one time with this CSM. It is amazing as leaders will do when they are being called out. He should have done that a long time ago.
"This one!!!! Holy **** she was in charge of us in Afghanistan!! I could go on and on about this toxic leader!! Trying to maintain professionalism but this one.....when a CSM so jacked up like this, she was laughing her ass off during our rehearsal of my brothers ceremony after he was killed in Afghanistan, she f***ing yelled at me because I "took too long saying my goodbye " as I'm f***ing crying kneeling in front of it. This post will probably get me in trouble, and ruin the rest of my army career as well as my day and my army experience."
What would you do if you were there? What if you were on command?
What should the Army do about this?
(Thanks to Army MP WTF Moments and it's followers for the photos.)
**************UPDATE************************
The 8th Theater Sustainment Command CSM will be travelling to the 8th MP BDE to have some one on one time with this CSM. It is amazing as leaders will do when they are being called out. He should have done that a long time ago.
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Shame.... All I have to say is Shame... on any leader that is supposed to be the keeper of the standard and does not lead by example.
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TSgt Charles Linebery
Black female in the military ignoring regulations and doing her thing = today’s political climate.
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SSG Marlin Dammarell
Today's Army, and it aint getting any better anytime soon. Its all over the Services!! One big reason why I retired at 20 years. lol. Now I can walk around the Base's/Post's and just laugh it it. Even worst overseas. Best decision in my 20 years!! God Speed!!
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CW4 Angela Birt
CSM Poll is correct. This is a leadership failure. NCOs enforce standards and any Bde Cdr who let her get away with that also failed.
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SGT Mike Moschkin
Definitely a failure of higher ups to let him/her know that this is unacceptable we are talking about military standards here !
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This is actually kind of fun to see. The Facebook page of this MP unit is going nuts right now. And the 8th Theater Sustainment Facebook page someone posted about this and they are headed up to Schofield Barracks now lol. Whats good though is I'm sure the lower enlisted were scared to speak up but get a bunch of roudy veterans involved and the problem gets addressed.
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SGT Thomas Bentley
CPT Joe Carmody - Under the last Commander and Chief it would have been a considered a crime(only not one) to correct a minority(god I hate the my Army has come to this) of would be harassment. Had a minority soldier get a shaving profile just so he could put a thin line douche bag (a type of beard) so he could pick up women at the bar. I caught him a he showed me his profile that stated infected area and could be no more than 1/4in. I said in front of his platoon SGT, who should have stopped weeks ago, "You mean to tell me that your infection is the perfect configuration of a douche bag". Then and only then his NCO took action. I hate that the Army has come to this.
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CPT Russell Pitre - Obvious case of Stolen Valor. Someone is impersonating a Command Sergeant Major!
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SFC Jim Ruether
I actually got a response from a Major in the 8th and he said she recently moved on and is no longer a member of their unit in Hawaii. He didn't say whether she got out? Not to beat a dead horse but is there any way to see if she's out or has complied with regulations or did they just transfer a problem child to another unit?
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SPC Korey Kilburn
SPC Lynise Webb my oldest sister went to boot in 1985 a PFC and Retired 20 years later a CW3. She has long curly hair and was always perfectly squared away as well.
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