Posted on Apr 27, 2016
What would you do if your CSM was ignoring uniform and grooming standards? (CSM Flournoy)
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So this CSM from the the 8th MP BDE seems to be out of regulations. From the comments she has been corrected but she claims she is being harassed. I don't even understand how she got to be a CSM at a BDE. What COL out there is letting this happen? In one of the photos she is wearing stilettos in uniform. WTF? What kind of example is this. The worst is from a Facebook user that said:
"This one!!!! Holy **** she was in charge of us in Afghanistan!! I could go on and on about this toxic leader!! Trying to maintain professionalism but this one.....when a CSM so jacked up like this, she was laughing her ass off during our rehearsal of my brothers ceremony after he was killed in Afghanistan, she f***ing yelled at me because I "took too long saying my goodbye " as I'm f***ing crying kneeling in front of it. This post will probably get me in trouble, and ruin the rest of my army career as well as my day and my army experience."
What would you do if you were there? What if you were on command?
What should the Army do about this?
(Thanks to Army MP WTF Moments and it's followers for the photos.)
**************UPDATE************************
The 8th Theater Sustainment Command CSM will be travelling to the 8th MP BDE to have some one on one time with this CSM. It is amazing as leaders will do when they are being called out. He should have done that a long time ago.
"This one!!!! Holy **** she was in charge of us in Afghanistan!! I could go on and on about this toxic leader!! Trying to maintain professionalism but this one.....when a CSM so jacked up like this, she was laughing her ass off during our rehearsal of my brothers ceremony after he was killed in Afghanistan, she f***ing yelled at me because I "took too long saying my goodbye " as I'm f***ing crying kneeling in front of it. This post will probably get me in trouble, and ruin the rest of my army career as well as my day and my army experience."
What would you do if you were there? What if you were on command?
What should the Army do about this?
(Thanks to Army MP WTF Moments and it's followers for the photos.)
**************UPDATE************************
The 8th Theater Sustainment Command CSM will be travelling to the 8th MP BDE to have some one on one time with this CSM. It is amazing as leaders will do when they are being called out. He should have done that a long time ago.
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She would quickly be reminded of her responsibility as a leader to maintain standards, don't expect subordinates to do what you do not do yourself
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Ask the hard question in a respectful manner and know your regs as a fallback resource. Realize "The truth is never disrespectful". Honestly, is there not an SFC through SGM confident enough to address this issue?
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Growing Beards, wearing turbans, women wearing shayla, khimar, chador, niqab, women's hair below the collar and some cut so short you can't tell if they are women, women wear pants, women not acting or looking like a woman, turbans, not wearing the Dress Uniforms out in public, wearing dungarees in public, women and men in the same barracks, swearing and cussing, fighting amongst each other, favoritism, and etc. If a woman wants to go to the front lines and fight, or be a pilot, or go aboard ship or submarine then fine, but for Pete Sakes act like a woman. I was in the Navy and I loved it and was proud and wore my Dress Uniform, we were representing the United States Armed Forces, not act like a bunch of sluts or muslims in rags. Wake up Military, this is the United States of America, not Alganhstain, Pakistan, back streets, and etc. This is America, don't like it then GET OUT!
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I would ask her about becoming a CSM and what it took to get there. All the while starring at her hair. This is so disappointing, and frustrating. “Dress shabbily and they remember the dress; dress impeccably and they remember the woman.” -Coco Chanel
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Respectably inform them that their uniform looks out of regs and specify what exactly. If you feel uncomfortable with that notify someone higher in the chain who can. No one is above regulations. Dress and Appearance especially. We are ALL suppose to look presentable and professional regardless of rank or position. WE must hold each other accountable. This goes for the newer generation of troops coming in, they need to be lead the right way.
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I guess the Army is still filling that race/sex quota to comply with Equal Rights .... Since the Army now allows homosexuality & women in combat stating equal rights isn't it time to have one uniform, one standard....... No makeup, body piercings, high n tights for everyone.....,.,
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This CSM must have shown some exceptional abilities to become a CSM. Something must have rung her bell PTSD, heart break, severe PMS something. She needs help.
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Poster of recruitment U.S. Corporate Army. Social promotion on the way no problems. Retention of what crap floats to the top only. No need to preform. Make the same money but no hair cutting for you girls, your special and should get special treatment we want call it that. Just for you dress code with sexual misconduct and discrimination investigations upon demand just because you say so ? Not problem.
This is not a isolated incident. What a disgrace. In Need of a spit shined boot ass kicking.
This is not a isolated incident. What a disgrace. In Need of a spit shined boot ass kicking.
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