Posted on Apr 27, 2016
What would you do if your CSM was ignoring uniform and grooming standards? (CSM Flournoy)
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So this CSM from the the 8th MP BDE seems to be out of regulations. From the comments she has been corrected but she claims she is being harassed. I don't even understand how she got to be a CSM at a BDE. What COL out there is letting this happen? In one of the photos she is wearing stilettos in uniform. WTF? What kind of example is this. The worst is from a Facebook user that said:
"This one!!!! Holy **** she was in charge of us in Afghanistan!! I could go on and on about this toxic leader!! Trying to maintain professionalism but this one.....when a CSM so jacked up like this, she was laughing her ass off during our rehearsal of my brothers ceremony after he was killed in Afghanistan, she f***ing yelled at me because I "took too long saying my goodbye " as I'm f***ing crying kneeling in front of it. This post will probably get me in trouble, and ruin the rest of my army career as well as my day and my army experience."
What would you do if you were there? What if you were on command?
What should the Army do about this?
(Thanks to Army MP WTF Moments and it's followers for the photos.)
**************UPDATE************************
The 8th Theater Sustainment Command CSM will be travelling to the 8th MP BDE to have some one on one time with this CSM. It is amazing as leaders will do when they are being called out. He should have done that a long time ago.
"This one!!!! Holy **** she was in charge of us in Afghanistan!! I could go on and on about this toxic leader!! Trying to maintain professionalism but this one.....when a CSM so jacked up like this, she was laughing her ass off during our rehearsal of my brothers ceremony after he was killed in Afghanistan, she f***ing yelled at me because I "took too long saying my goodbye " as I'm f***ing crying kneeling in front of it. This post will probably get me in trouble, and ruin the rest of my army career as well as my day and my army experience."
What would you do if you were there? What if you were on command?
What should the Army do about this?
(Thanks to Army MP WTF Moments and it's followers for the photos.)
**************UPDATE************************
The 8th Theater Sustainment Command CSM will be travelling to the 8th MP BDE to have some one on one time with this CSM. It is amazing as leaders will do when they are being called out. He should have done that a long time ago.
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Sounds like Core Values are missing in this CSM. Not to mention respect for human loss.
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for this particular CSM, she has lowered moral with her unprofessionalism. I would have filed an IG complaint anonymously and incited others to do the same thing. In the Navy, each unit has to have all members do a survey of Command Climate and it anonymous. Any issues and an investigation is done
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Simple pull her to the side and just to let her know she is out of regulation, if she does not change it, I would then go to the Commander and report her. Just that simple and for my rank and career she could not hurt it anyway. How can you tell someone to follow orders when the person above you does not- this is not do as I say not as I do. No one is above the regulation
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Well chances are someone will accuse you of an EEOC violation of some sort of you say something but I say she is a piss poor example of a military member and should be instructed to be squared away.
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Sorry to see this still goes on in military organization. How this or any person would be allowed to be advanced is puzzelling to me. The military isn't supposed to be politically correct and has long standing rules and regulations. Superiors should be reviewed and demoted if nessary to correct what has been going on.
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When supervisors fail to do their duties in a outfit, it reflects the units overal readiness and moral. I've seen it all and have been so dissapointed with the military. Tatoos, sex changes at tax payers expence, Uniform and appearence violations. failure to perform duties as required are all things that distract and greatly down grade the military's service.
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TSgt James Carson
I noticed that a private in the Army who got 35 years prison for being a traitor is rewarded by the President with a pardon and a sex change to boot. It seems the President is giving traitors, criminals and countries that will do us harm a pass and a pat on the back. I want to know, What happened to this country.
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Today, women don't want to be women, they want to be and dress and act like men. I am/was a Navy Wave and proud to be called a "Navy Wave". We had a dress code and we had to follow it to the "T". It is ashame the way Military Women Dress. They look like Full Backs in football. I agree though that women should be aboard ship and fly jets, and be gunner's. But there are some places women do not belong. I was and still am proud to be a Navy Wave. I am not a Sailor. Sailor's are men. When I went to see my son and his ship come back from Persian Gulf War, I got into a discussion with a girl (woman Sailor). I was at first being nice, then when I told her I was a Navy Wave, 3rd Class Yeoman, she corrected me and told me that there are No More Navy WAVES! That the Navy did away with the "Navy Waves"! I looked at her and the way she was dressed in a Sailor Suit, and looked her straight in the eye and said that I AM and Always will be a Proud Navy Wave! You can call yourself a Sailor, but I hate to inform you that you do not have a "D__K"! By that time my husband came and got me by the arm and said times have changed. Yea there where a lot of people around me. I could have cared less. I was proud and proud to be a Navy WAVE!
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Why do folks on RallyPoint continue to comment on this CSM's appearance or any other aspect of her life. It's pretty clear by the comments that she is a disgrace and has no place in the Army, particularly a leadership role. Stop wasting your breath and keystrokes. My guess is she revels in the attention she's getting. One of those people we've all met in our lives that will do whatever it takes to be the center of attention without regard to consequences. I would be surprised if she is even aware that she is a joke. PS: Mickey Rourke called and wants his face back.
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Total break down in discipline, loss of confidence, CSM needs to held accountable for such actions.
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