Posted on Jan 7, 2016
What would you do if your Sergeant didn't know how to load a magazine?
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I just saw this video and felt like I was watching a multi-car accident on the interstate. It just got worse as it went on. What made it so bad as this was a SGT. The Safety was professional as he could be. Hats off to him. When I heard her say "I'm not Active Duty" I would have kicked her off the range. I am glad the Safety told her that she was a soldier and that he was a reservist too. If I was her CO I would have do everything I could to reduce her. But I think if you have a NCO like this in your unit the unit itself has a lot of issues in the first place. What kills me also is that she has a combat patch.
What would you have if you were the Safety?
Just so you know that you know it is believed that they Safety was a SSG just the same as was the soldier trying to load the mag.
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What would you have if you were the Safety?
Just so you know that you know it is believed that they Safety was a SSG just the same as was the soldier trying to load the mag.
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Sp4 Byron From what I read this is not a case of poor training of an individual soldier, that can be corrected. Its a case of a female soldier who is taking advantage of the Army over looking standards that would apply to a male soldier and let her get away with playing the gender card. The only workable solution is another female soldier who take pride in her job and says in what ever language this "Sgt." may understand to bet her shit to gather or she may have some problems. Back in the day this issues would have been covered with a blanket part for the ingrate E-5' But those day are gone, in my opinion unfortunately. Only soldiers can square another soldier away, it is their six that this soldier will be covering and has nothing to do with gender opportunity or sexual discrimination or Sexual hurrasment.
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I'd most definitely report their ass if they were in a combat MOS and I'd try to transfer away from that life threatening bullshit. If they were admin or something similar to a candy ass job I would probably call them names and laugh at their ass. Sorry. That's just the way I am.
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Truth is this doesn't shock me with many Reservists. The go to the range once a year. Time is short so many times magazines are loaded and prepped in advance of a Soldier even arriving. Truth be told when was the last time your unit even questioned if Soldiers new this task. In 19 years, I have never sat in training on it. I learned watching others. Its not an excuse. But, should be a warning to all. Sometimes were thinking out of the box so often. we forget to insure everyone understands the basics.
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I would immediately give instruction and get them through the exercise safely. Then I would make them train and retrain to proficiency.
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That Sergrant would be doing Immediate Action Drills every second she was on duty.
That weapon would follow her everywhere, she'd be giving classes on that weapon to the Command Staff, she'd know EVERYTHING that there is to possible know about that weapon including a couple of weekends in the Armory breaking weapons down.
It would be Infantry Training 101 for this Sergeant.
If she didn't want to play along and learn about her T/O weapon?
All is good, she'd make a fine PFC or Specialist humping a radio.
That weapon would follow her everywhere, she'd be giving classes on that weapon to the Command Staff, she'd know EVERYTHING that there is to possible know about that weapon including a couple of weekends in the Armory breaking weapons down.
It would be Infantry Training 101 for this Sergeant.
If she didn't want to play along and learn about her T/O weapon?
All is good, she'd make a fine PFC or Specialist humping a radio.
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What ever happen to the Schooling system in the Army? To move up in rank you had to know your basic skills....
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I would recommend refresher training for BRM and ARM with IET soldiers and maybe ASAP because you got to be on drugs to not know how to load a magazine with that amount of rank on your chest.
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First of all i don't see any mags with a fetl fed weapon. second some where down the line some failed in the training of this SGT. if she had weapon training then she should have been trained to load the mag. so it all goes back to the NCO's that was over here and her training. It would have took me about five minutes to train her how to load the mag or her ass would be sent off the line.
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Holy cow. How do you mess something that simple up? I started out as a reservist but still. You go through Basic training and AIT and I'm sorry but some things you just DON'T forget. You just don't. We drilled once a month, usually the 3rd weekend and aside from annual training you could expect that during the year there were at least two occasions where you went into the field, one of which was qualifications with an M-16. How she got to be an E-5 is beyond me.
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I enlisted in the Montana Army National guard right after my ETS from active duty in 1977, (decided that I wanted to drive a tank, with the 163rd Armored Cav. same goes for the Nevada Army National Guard,221st Armored Cav. which I joined in 1980, I was appalled at what I saw, guys that wore their insignias improperly, no rank insignia, long hair, wrinkled uniforms,scuffed up boots, I was shocked BUT when we were out on the range and in live fire exercises we put on one HELL of a show to the brass, so, not having been in active service is no excuse for not knowing what you're supposed to know and execute instantly without hesitation.
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She needs to be sent back and start over, it is a requirement of being a member of any military to know how to use your weapon. As for what I would do personally, hand her a unload weapon, point her in right direction and enjoy having a shield while I return fire.
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I am a Range safety officer. And yeah I would have thrown her off he line. The Cheif is an ex sailor corpsman attached to Marines. He would have told her to go home get your head out of your ass and come back.
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Maybe it's different now, but when I was in basic Reserves and National Guard went through the same training I did. IMO there is no excuse for a SGT to not be able to load a magazine.
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Incompetence should never be tolerated except for "boots" . SGTs duties include teaching new recruits. It is inexcusable that someone promoted to the rank of SGt. Is this dumb. Not only would I kick her off the range she would be demoted. Dumbing down the military for gender incompetence is ludicrous. You want equality then treat them equally
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Square that SGT away just like a Private. Shit happens, chew that SGT and keep it moving.
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Her unit let her down - I was a female reservist and medical unit besides. We took people who did not have familiarity and reviewed and made sure hey had a chance to refamiliarize themselves. It's not fair to judge if you don't have the opportunity to review.
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I have run into this numerous times in my career, but with all due deference to some of the SM's who needed help not everyone in every branch gets small arms training.
Now when it's your first sergeant who doesn't know how to adjust her sights, then the #$%& just got real. And yes, that really happened to me.
Now when it's your first sergeant who doesn't know how to adjust her sights, then the #$%& just got real. And yes, that really happened to me.
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While it is shocking to know this I guess I would use a teaching moment. What MOS did she have? When I got to my active duty unit I had an assignment as new guy to be an aggressor to our field artillery units. The gave me the M-60 to fire blanks at but in loading it I could tell there was something wrong with the recoil spring. There was no tension that you should have when pulling the handle. I thought to myself this could not be true but then I was detailed to clean the M-60's off of the firing range in basic so I knew. As a new PFC they experienced SP4 and SGT did not believe me. They checked it for themselves only to find out my assessment was correct. I wondered how it was overlooked by the Battery Armorer. The good thing was I got to use my M-16 instead. So it is possible she never had the experience other than firing one in basic training. Be the better professional and provide remedial training.
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You would be surprised how many soldiers are out there that do not know what many would consider basic. Under these circumstances patience is called for as fear of being made a fool of, could be part of the reason they never asked the correct question. Also unless you do something regularly it is easy to forget. So when the system fails, it is our responsibility to fix it. Did I tell you about my closing the top cover on an uncocked M-60? Thank goodness for my Tac Officer who was better than most.
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Her whole chain of command failed. If you promote soldiers who cannot do basic soldier skills it is the leadership that failed. Not the soldier
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