Posted on Apr 26, 2017
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Soldier called and stated they spent the night at their girlfriends house and got lost on the train on the way back to post. This is OCONUS and the curfew is 0100 for E5 and below.
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SGT Darin Jenkins
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When you have soldiers that have no reguard, respect and don't even put forth any effort the only course is to UCMJ them out of the service.
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SGT Darin Jenkins
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Just UCMJ him out of the service.
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SPC Patricia  K. (Williams) Elliott
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#1 he broke curfew, #2 he was late for formation and evidently not the first time! Was he counseled for missing the PT formation? If so then it's time for corrective action. Restriction to post would be the first thing I do and then some instructions on what his responsibilities are regarding following the rules and getting to all formations on time! Back in my day he would have been assigned extra duty which would have been issued by the First Sergeant and if he persisted in his wayward actions, an Article 15 would be done and possible discharge from the military.
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1SG Bill Farmerie
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When I was in Germany, my 1SG had two shiny galvanize trash cans in front of the unit. One was called Moti and the other Vation. If someone was late, they had a choice summarized ART 15 or for each 5 minutes late 15 minutes shining the cans for the next 5 days. This was for the first two offenses only. Third offense was no choice, ART 15. They were the shiniest cans I have ever seen.
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SGT Robert Wager
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Far too many people underestimate the power of a summarized ART 15. A company commander can snatch a knot in a soldier’s arse pretty fast and it not have a lasting effect on the career of the soldier. If the turd cannot learn from corrective training and you have done your paperwork the next step would be to recommend a summarized art 15
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Sgt Dale Briggs
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Can you have him attached to guard details, or other shitty duties? its his second strike so obviously he's a shitbird, whatever shitty duty or detail you can stick him on works. I'd also confine him to base if that's legal these days. Back in the day you'd be at the mercy of the 1st Sgt, and as an old beat up Nam Vet he wasn't sympathetic to stupidity.
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MSgt Owner
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With dogs I teach not to give the dog enough freedom to make mistakes until they have learned and proven themselves. That way we do not end up with a dog getting in trouble for something they do not understand. If the dog is given freedom and then fails, we remove that freedom and start over with training at a level they do understand.

So, I would say that this soldier has proven that he cannot be where he belongs at a specified time. So, he needs some training in being there on time. You can only train that if he is always available to you. If he can't leave the post, he can't very well get lost on a train.
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