Posted on Apr 26, 2017
What would you do if your soldier was two hours late to work call, with a previous no show to PT formation (corrective action, UCMJ, etc.)?
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Soldier called and stated they spent the night at their girlfriends house and got lost on the train on the way back to post. This is OCONUS and the curfew is 0100 for E5 and below.
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I find this excuse not very compelling. More likely he wanted to get just one more session in.
Now I don't get in SPC Tentpeg's ass for having a social life.
However, this is affecting work performance and that is a no go.
I think SPC Tentpeg just found his social life greatly constricted, to the tune of 14 days restriction.
Depending on how that goes and his willingness to get his head right, more may ensue.
The goal should be to correct the behavior, not necessarily punish the Soldier.
Punishment comes when he is so foolish as to back talk or worse, break restriction. Then I will regulate.
Now I don't get in SPC Tentpeg's ass for having a social life.
However, this is affecting work performance and that is a no go.
I think SPC Tentpeg just found his social life greatly constricted, to the tune of 14 days restriction.
Depending on how that goes and his willingness to get his head right, more may ensue.
The goal should be to correct the behavior, not necessarily punish the Soldier.
Punishment comes when he is so foolish as to back talk or worse, break restriction. Then I will regulate.
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Sergeant, I would take away Snuffy's pass privilege, give them a counseling statement with the corrective action of showing up every 15 minutes in a different uniform. I.e. ACU first go round, Winter PT uniform, Class B uniform, then the field uniform with body armor, and so on. Be creative, we have numerous uniforms to go through. All of this is corrective training, not punishment. Keep it going to about 23:45 on night when you have staff duty/CQ. I think Snuffy will get the message.
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PFC Bradley Campbell
CW3's response....sad.in the real world, you would find your self in court and your employer would save it's ass and you would be in deep shit. then again, you have people under contract somewhere between slave and indentured servant.employee turnover is a morale killer and those who cause it for fun and ego trip need to be bounced out asap. but what do i know?
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And what message is that? Instead of going overboard like this, a better punishment would be to restrict him to post and to have him sign in at the CQ desk every two hours. Wasting his time by changing every 15 minutes is pointless, kills morale, teaches nothing, and would probably end up in you getting in trouble.
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SFC Bill Snyder
CW3 Kevin Storm - My 1Sgt had me cutting grass with a scythe when I was a young know it all. He got promoted and I thank him for his consideration; it could have been an Art 15 or CM.
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i knew an NCO who used to solve this problem as follows: tell him he can either show up to work 1-2 hours early for the next 14 duty days and scrub the shitters or he can get paperwork, his choice. you might have to show up early too to verify he's actually there, but you could always use your time for some admin work. it'll teach him to show up on time, assuming he's otherwise a good troop. if he is a good troop, it'll be worthwhile to teach the lesson at the lowest possible level.
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