Posted on Dec 22, 2013
1SG Michael Blount
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<p>Let me posit two caveats:</p><p>1. I ALWAYS address officers (whether commissioned or Warrant) as "Sir", "Ma'am" or by their rank</p><p>2. I always publicly addressed NCOs by their rank.&nbsp; In private conversations, it may be another story</p>
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SGT Michael Glenn
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When the ice is broken, when out of uniform if offered, otherwise rank should ALWAYS proceed the last name while in uniform, no exceptions.
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When both you and they are in civilian status and they ask you to....especially if you're about to be working for the same civilian firm ;)
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SFC Healthcare Specialist (Combat Medic)
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I've served in many different type units and on some small
unit teams also.  I've noticed a change
between working inside small units and large formations.  In the small units the Lead or the Chief or
SGM were always address as Sir (even the SGM while working with foreign forces)
and everyone else working were on first name in a deployed area.  Even working on OMLT/ETTs/ MiTTs everyone
came to a general choice to go by first names. 
It's helped cut down on the BS and we could get to a BLUF much quicker
for mission purpose; then the typically run around as this can happen in MDMP
between officers and enlisted. 

In a garrison setting were nothing has been to crazy a few
officers refer to me by my first name, and they do this to get my honest thoughts on matters.  I
never address them back by theirs in public forums or really while in
uniform.  I currently work in an org that
the slant is 56/9/1/93/12 being O/E/WO/GS/CON. 
We still stay very respectful in our organization, as we know we work
for a greater good for the Army as a whole. 
I think as long as you act professional and you are able to articulate
on your experience you'll be treated as such no matter how they refer to you.  Just one man’s experience in the game.



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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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SFC - the closer you get to the flagpole, especially in larger units, the more formal things get.  
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SFC Detachment Sergeant
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This drove me nuts in line units because there is no need for it especially around Soldiers. I now find myself in the one job (that I have filled) where it makes sense. That is a plain clothes job. When part of your job is to blend in and minimize your military appearance.
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PO2 Patrick Williams
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All Depends on the level of respect you have for a person there were some I would call by their rank and others by Mr or Ms. I grew up in the Navy it was hard for me to make transition as I had always called people by first name and they were E7 and above as well as officers.
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1SG Michael Blount
1SG Michael Blount
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PO2 Williams - what I never understand is Navy rank. It's almost like a closed code. Until about 3 years into my military career, I finally figured out who's enlisted Navy and who are the officers.
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CSM Infantry Senior Sergeant
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I understand exactly how you feel CSM Blount, the first time I met an Air Force Master Sergeant I stood at parade rest out of respect until I learned he was the same pay grade I was at the time. Did I feel like the fool lol! 
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SSG Instructor/Writer
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While at work I always use rank which is what the reg calls for unless told otherwise (usually in USASOC/JSOC units where 1st names are not uncommon). After work I prefer to be called by my 1st name for the simple fact it helps seperate work from home. As long as you respect your comrades and show them that they are more than another soldier in it'll go a long way.
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CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A.
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With NCOs: Never. I was never comfortable with Officers who called me by my first name. Good NCOs have worked hard for their rank and addressing them as such is respectful of that work. Crappy NCOs (that's a technical term) need to learn the discipline and be reminded of expectations.

LTs: Only behind closed doors and only if they are able to figure out why only behind closed doors.

Peers: Almost immediately, and only when neither sets of our subordinates are in the area. This is subject to a mutual agreement. Some people really like their rank.

Seniors: only when given permission (so....almost never).
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SCPO Senior Enlisted Leader
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"Common sense with respect is always refreshing! Good advice: "Knowing your target audience and adapt to your environment!".... It was always hard when senior officers address you by first name when in a non command function.. eventhough we inform our seniors that they will always be sir or ma'am, in or out of uniform.
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CSM Blount,

This is a good question. I two am like you and have noticed others around my unit will call each other by first names at work. I do not believe this to be professional. Though, I am lower enlisted I feel the need to speak out at times. I am corrected by the higher up with a statement which usually goes like, "When you become this rank you can call people what you want." I believe only in a personal setting like a family dinner it is okay to call someone by their first name (as long as they agree to it themselves).
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CSM Blount,

I address all Commissioned Officers by their rank and last name.

I address most Warrant Officers by their rank and last name. Exception is made based on situation and the relationship at hand; for the most part usually CW3-CW4 address each other by first name; I will almost never address a CW5 by his or her first name as a CW3--maybe CW4, if he or she directed me to.

I address all NCOs by their rank and last name.

I address all junior enlisted Soldiers by their last name. However, I am getting better at addressing junior enlisted Soldiers w/ their rank as well.

I address most Civilians by Mr. or Ms. Exception is made based on situation and the relationship at hand.

Thank you for the post CSM Blount.

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