Posted on Dec 26, 2014
Sgt James Grignon
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My wife and I went to mass on Christmas Eve, as we sat there I leaned over and whispered in her ear. What are you thinking about right now? She replied "how much I love being in the company of so many happy people celebrating the same thing, what are you thinking about?" My response was somewhere along the line of, what I would do and where we would go if an emergency such a crazed shooter were to occur here tonight. The result of a lingering military mentality? Probably... Do you do this in large gatherings as well?

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1SG Vet Technician
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I do tend to think about contingencies, most often in the days immediately after an event.

I was looking more carefully at the passengers when I flew shortly after the WTC attacks, and considered my position while in a theater shortly after the Aurora Batman Movie killings.
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
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Yes, I often think through a similar situation -- in that, what would I do if someone in a specific location in the room started to attack me or someone I was with.
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SPC Leisel Luman
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My fight or flight became unmanageable. I avoided all large crowds that I couldn't easily escape from. Extremely suspicious of strangers. The first time I took my kid to Disney she was stuck in the bathroom stall with me having a panic attack. I'm one of the few females who despise the mall. I do my grocery shopping monthly to avoid the place. After walking my daughter to school I got panicked and while trying to get back into the house my hand went through the glass cutting tendons, nerves and artery. VA hand surgeon did fantastic job fixing my hand. I actually kicked some ax hol in the face with heels on for threatening me aft I said something back about some crude remark. Oh and while half asleep walking my dog the neighbors nasty dog bit me I wrenched the chain around his neck choking him into the ground. Next thing I know the fat man is saying lady lady let loose of my dog. I think I hissed something about killing it if it's out without a leash again. This was totally out of character and not in my nature. I don't blame the military for this. Yes I had PTSD from postmortem care of a infant from my service I got out in 2005 but it was manageable I loved my job. In 2008 I was the victim of a violent assault. That compounded trauma resulted in what I described above. Most people would not guess what was going on with me because I stayed home. Completely unable to work The VA is the one that figured out that I had Central Cranial Diabetes Insipidus. It's a rare endocrine disorder that happens after brain surgery or TBI the brain does not make vasopressin. Today I take synthetic vasopressin and supplements to balance the electrolytes. I credit the VA in St. Petersburg for figuring this out. My primary doctor, MH and endocrinologist all see the same labs and notes. This may have gone on for years or landed me in prison if it were not for the VA. I Hope this embarrassing info helps some one else. The only negative I have to say is I've been waiting three years for my IU claim to be processed
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SPC Leisel Luman
SPC Leisel Luman
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My religion calls for "peace to people OF GOOD WILL". I know I'm a living breathing example of a walking contradiction. I wanted to wrap yellow crime scene tape around my head to warn others.
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SPC Leisel Luman
SPC Leisel Luman
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Where is my crime scene tape to wrap around my head to warn others? I think I should dispense some to the monkey poop flinger too.
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SPC David Hannaman
SPC David Hannaman
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IMO killing a dog that bites is a public service... I own large dogs, they're trained because at the end of the day *I* am responsible for their actions.

Maybe I'm just pragmatic to the point of what some people would call cruel.
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SPC Leisel Luman
SPC Leisel Luman
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It's just not the lady like or neighborly thing to do. Not in my nature to harm pets. My MH doc was not worried about it. I didn't actually kill it. I just was threatened when he bit me and reacted. just reached underhand the chain and twisted choking it down into the ground. Don't actually remember full event until the fat man saying lady lady turn loose of my dog. I remember I didn't want to turn it loose but the fat man agreed to the terms and it seemed reasonable to turn it loose. I felt bad and spilled my coffee.
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Edited 11 y ago
Sgt James Grignon. I don't worry about crazed shooter or random terrorist . . . but I do tend to keep an eye out for people who may have specific interest in me, my family, business associates, employees, or guests. I make an effort to avoid trouble . . . but I am also prepared if the need to see, avoid, or respond ever arises. Warmest Regards, Sandy
SP5 Michael Rathbun
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Edited 11 y ago
I always expect that the wall over there might erupt in flames, flying metal and loud noises at any moment. I make plans accordingly.

Whether consciously or unconsciously, when choosing a place to sit (I'm nearly always first in the room) I go for a solid wall behind me, facing the door; failing that, at the very least, facing the door.

The longer I am in a large crowd (movie theaters are bad news) the more edgy I get.

If I'm still like this 45 years after a rather mild 362-day tour in Viet-Nam, I can only just begin to imagine what my brothers and sisters, veterans of more recent operations, are going through every day.
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SPC Leisel Luman
SPC Leisel Luman
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That is a Horrible place to be emotionally and you are right these guys coming Back after lengthy multiple deployments may not feel the impact til they get back home. Many of my friends were so uncomfortable coming home the wanted to redeploy ASAP. To many come home to such miserable personal situations who could blame them.
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Sgt Martin V.
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I tend to think about this more so when I am with my wife and kids.
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SSgt Senior It Security Analyst
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Always. I also eye suspicious characters until they leave the area.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Scope out cover, concealment, exits and potential weapons. Whether or not tables and chairs are bolted down.
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MSgt Mark Reynolds
MSgt Mark Reynolds
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Hadn't thought about the tables. Good one.
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SP5 Michael Rathbun
SP5 Michael Rathbun
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First thing you notice as you sit down. Just give it an "accidental" heave.
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SFC Bridge Nco Observer   Controller/Trainer (Oc/T)
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I think the same way including looking for exit signs and what I could use for cover and what I can use as a weapon. I might be going out on a limb here but I think this is normal now!
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Capt 57 Wps Chief, Stan/Eval
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Yes, every where I go I am scoping out entry and exit points and any possible choke points. I'm unable to sit down in a restaurant or business with my back to an entrance.
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