Posted on Mar 17, 2017
SPC Erich Guenther
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I bring my personal computer with me. And the govt laptop never leaves the bag, that is no more than 2 ft from me at all times, until I need it for official business.
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SSgt Ryan Sylvester
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Yep. If you're going to be doing anything you wouldn't do on your office GFE, don't do it on your GFE laptop, either.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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Same here but when I am in the office in the lobby they have guards with machine guns and pretty impressive security screening (better than TSA) so I can leave it in my office cube docking station as long as I lock the screen. Anyone that makes it past the lobby alive has to be at least Special Forces level (heh-heh).
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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I always figured if it was a secure Government computer I only did authorized Government business on it. I did My own things only on My own computer and never mixed the two. Although I have a cell phone I own I can receive Email on, Text etc. I use that to communicate with people at home. When I'm away I tend not to spend any time on any computer I don't have to. I usually had other things to do beside roost on a computer. If I called home my calls were usually short and had a purpose. I never liked blabbing on the phone or sending text messages. I always thought phones were kind of annoying and didn't call people at home if I didn't have to . At work I have to answer the phone, thats fine but at home I prefer the peace and quiet and no ringing phones. That kind of drifted from laptops but I tend to be very careful and except for limited Emails don't often use it to communicate with people at home anyway. When i see people that have got in real trouble with misuse of Government computers I decided long ago to never take any risk.
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PO2 Leading Petty Officer (Lpo)
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I believe that so long as your highly secure laptop is locked up and stowed away properly, then you may use your personal laptop. However these two items cannot be packed away in the same container, and your personal laptop should NEVER enter a secure space. I would also consult whatever instruction you use for Information Security or ask a superior as Navy regulations may differ from Army.
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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PO2 (Join to see) , it's pretty much the same as Navy since I do believe it's DOD directed.
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PO2 Leading Petty Officer (Lpo)
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MSG (Join to see) Thank you, that is good to know for any future questions and possible cross branching work I may come across.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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Yes I have to lock it up as well. So I usually stay at hotels with a room safe when I travel so I can leave it in the hotel locked up.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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I don't have a security clearance and there is no classified material on it. So I probably don't have to worry about that.
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When on the road with a Highly Secure laptop, how do you communicate with folks back home? Do you bring a personal laptop with you?
MSG Senior Advisor To Plans
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Well apparently if you're Secret Service, you just leave the highly secure laptop in plain view in your car while parked at home. Glad I'm retiring because I know this will somehow result in more mandatory training for the Army. On a serious note, if by "Highly Secure" you mean classified, I really hope you are not flying with a hard drive, I have seen who teams disbanded for that. I never heard anything about not being able to use your own laptop while on a trip, only those locations where you couldn't bring your own laptop in.
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PO1 Brian Austin
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Govt/classified computer is for Govt/classified business. In my case they (usually 3) stayed bagged up until we arrived at final destination. I couriered them a lot in Iraq, a pain in the butt. :)
Personal computer was for my personal business, never the twain shall meet.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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Thanks.
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Sgt Field Radio Operator
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SPC Erich Guenther You would communicate with folks back home on a cell phone or personal laptop. Using a government computer for personal business is not a good idea.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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I like the cell phone idea and think I will use that.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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Yes, the classified equipment is just that, a tool, piece of government equipment, my NIPR laptop came along for the ride, and often my personal one as well..depending on what i want to do while away from my base of operations. Basic personal email and Internet browsing on the GOV lap top on the NIPR side is possible ..But if i wanted to use a non CIV connection them it had to me my personal laptop.
So it was common for me to board a Helo with a Pelican case that had three laptops and associated other gear.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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Hold Crap, thats what I am trying to avoid (loading myself down like a pack mule) I'll use my smart phone for personal. I had a Pelican once upon a time but I got rid of it.
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SPC Erich Guenther If by highly secure you mean a computer with classified, you would not be able to communicate with anyone unless you and the other end are in the appropriate network, so what's the question again?
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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Thanks, officially it is only locked down, I don't have any security clearences but have access to most of the computer systems in the Executive Branch. So it is considered sensitive and they follow what it seems like is TOP SECRET protocols. Yes I have to lock it up when not in use and face prison time if it is stolen and not properly secured.
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Cpl Justin Goolsby
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Well yeah... or a smart phone... why would you be using government property for personal business.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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Well because for one it is easier than carrying two laptops. Two, so far I have been keeping personal business off of it. I was just curious what others do.
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SFC Andrew Miller
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I don't know what Highly Secure means, but follow the rules according to its classification level. I used to carry a personal laptop everywhere, but shortly before retirement was relying on a tablet and smartphone for just about everything personal.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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It means requires the use of a PIV card to reach most government systems (like a CAC card), It means that if I attempt a cut and paste of a link to a browser it usually flags as a security issue and alerts my manager. It means 7 different classifications of Email and if I forward an Email to someone of a lower classification level it flags it as a security breach.
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SFC Andrew Miller
SFC Andrew Miller
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PIV and CAC are just different acronyms for the same type of smartcard. I have a VA issued PIV, myself. You would have been required to sign a user agreement that should outline what you can and can't do, and you can ask your ISO or IA people for the SOP. Easiest thing is to just use your personal device for anything not work related.
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