Posted on Apr 6, 2016
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No Saluting, Less formations, Grow a beard for religious beliefs, ETC... Everyone signed a contract to abide and to adhere to ”All Military Rules/Regulations and Traditions “. Today, it seems that the Army is conforming to the Volunteer. The New Army Standard is: Conform to the Soldier and discard rules/regulations and tradition. Leaders, where does is stop?
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SSG Warren Swan
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SFC, I'd need to see examples of what you're talking about. "No Saluting"? What do you mean? Even in the military, we cannot trump federal laws that prohibit discrimination. When was the last time you've worn your pro-mask in a combat area? So for the Army to try to use that as justification to keep them out, was wrong. The Army is an living evolving entity. Those regulation you mention are revised, can be revised, and it's up to the leaders to conform or get out. The same way we tell our Soldiers. Traditions? What traditions are you talking about?
If the Army is a living breathing entity it has to change. Note women in combat arms, women who are Rangers, women in three and four star positions. Something 30 years ago would NEVER have happened. Minorities who aren't relegated to being cooks, drivers, or other mundane jobs. That was the Army we're ALL a part of, and it changed for the better. I'm not calling you close minded, but if you cannot see that the military as a whole is an evolving process and the largest social project ever, then it's not the Army who has a problem. BTW I don't see WAC on your profile. So there must've been a change in things to allow you to enlist into the regular Army and not be relegated to some secondary MOS in the WAC.
So I'll ask again what ”All Military Rules/Regulations and Traditions “, are you talking about?
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SSG Dennis Grossmann
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Across the pond and in smoking areas are the only two places I can recall no salute zones. One was for safety and the other was so that the officer could get a smoke in.
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Certain things are good for evolution but the discipline has also evolved as it has leaders handcuffed from actually administering it. You may think that everything is all hunky dory and change is great but there needs to be a stopping point to the change or we are gonna get rolled in a near peer war
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Unfortunately this is only going to happen after a bunch of our sons (and daughters now as well, I guess) get killed fighting a near-peer enemy.

It is going to take us getting kicked int the teeth to see that we are sacrificing combat effectiveness for the sake of political correctness.

Fundamentally, if it doesn't enhance lethality, increase the effects on a target, or is part of the warfightimg functions, we shouldn't be doing it.

The military is not a Petri dish and combat is not a "game." The results of it are real and sometimes very permanent for those involved.

This is why I am absolutely opposed to a decrease in function for the sake of accomodation.

Our people, our children/ brothers/ fathers/sisters/mothers will die because we are spending energy on priorities other than: shoot, move, communicate, and see.

This unnecessary loss will occur because agendas and cowardice by those in power/command.
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There are too many hurt feelings these days. Soldiers have lost that rough and tough tradition that made us strong as an Army. I came in the Army when was "Be All You Can Be, in the Army". "now it's walk litely before someone ruins your career"
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MSG Scott McBride
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Totally agree with you. Just ine reason why I retired.
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