Posted on Sep 2, 2016
Where can I take ACE courses other than Skillport?
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I am trying to take courses to get my associates and later bachelors but the ACE courses on Skill-port are not exactly relevant to the degree I am pursuing.
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Short answer:
ALMS.
Long answer:
There are two categories of ACE credit in their own respective "guides":
1. The ACE National Guide and the ACE Military Guide. The ACE National Guide "contains ACE credit recommendations for formal courses or examinations offered by various organizations, from businesses and unions to the government and military". Usually -but not always- civilian courses, although quite a few DoD offerings are on this list.
2. The ACE Military Guide is a bit different since it contains credit recommendations for certain courses and for MOSs at specific skill levels. Note: 35N10 (your MOS and skill level) does not earn any ACE credit recommendations. The ACE Military Guide is for the traditional military courses (resident and online), such as (from the Army side) BCT, PLDC/WLC/BLC, ALC, SLC, Airborne, et al. The military courses covered by the ACE National Guide are predominantly online/distance offerings offered outside of NCOES, for example. You can find some/few/minimal online/distance courses on the ACE Military Guide. There are more options in the ACE National Guide.
Take a look at the ACE National Guide. (Link to ACE National Guide: http://www2.acenet.edu/credit/?fuseaction=browse.main
Many of these courses are free, most are not. For example, look under "U" for the “U.S. Army Defense Ammunition Center, Training Directorate”. You can take most of those on ALMS. They're free. The credits you earn don't go on your JST though. They go on your civilian ACE transcript, which isn't free. (Link to ACE Registry and Transcript System: https://www2.acenet.edu/credit/?fuseaction=transcripts.main)
The majority of the free online courses you can take will not go on your JST (free), they will go on your civilian ACE transcript. Why? Because education is a profitable business. Using free ACE credits and paying for the transcript is still astronomically cheaper and quicker than most actual college courses.
Ultimately you will have to consider the school to which you plan to transfer these credits. The courses in the two guides don’t earn you “credits” per se. They earn you “ACE credit recommendations”. If the school does not have a liberal transfer policy you might be spinning your wheels as they might not accept the credit recommendation. I recommend contacting Cochise College and asking them if they have a list of ACE credit recommendations that they usually accept. The staff at Cochise College has always answered my questions and have never left me waiting beyond any reasonable limit.
ALMS.
Long answer:
There are two categories of ACE credit in their own respective "guides":
1. The ACE National Guide and the ACE Military Guide. The ACE National Guide "contains ACE credit recommendations for formal courses or examinations offered by various organizations, from businesses and unions to the government and military". Usually -but not always- civilian courses, although quite a few DoD offerings are on this list.
2. The ACE Military Guide is a bit different since it contains credit recommendations for certain courses and for MOSs at specific skill levels. Note: 35N10 (your MOS and skill level) does not earn any ACE credit recommendations. The ACE Military Guide is for the traditional military courses (resident and online), such as (from the Army side) BCT, PLDC/WLC/BLC, ALC, SLC, Airborne, et al. The military courses covered by the ACE National Guide are predominantly online/distance offerings offered outside of NCOES, for example. You can find some/few/minimal online/distance courses on the ACE Military Guide. There are more options in the ACE National Guide.
Take a look at the ACE National Guide. (Link to ACE National Guide: http://www2.acenet.edu/credit/?fuseaction=browse.main
Many of these courses are free, most are not. For example, look under "U" for the “U.S. Army Defense Ammunition Center, Training Directorate”. You can take most of those on ALMS. They're free. The credits you earn don't go on your JST though. They go on your civilian ACE transcript, which isn't free. (Link to ACE Registry and Transcript System: https://www2.acenet.edu/credit/?fuseaction=transcripts.main)
The majority of the free online courses you can take will not go on your JST (free), they will go on your civilian ACE transcript. Why? Because education is a profitable business. Using free ACE credits and paying for the transcript is still astronomically cheaper and quicker than most actual college courses.
Ultimately you will have to consider the school to which you plan to transfer these credits. The courses in the two guides don’t earn you “credits” per se. They earn you “ACE credit recommendations”. If the school does not have a liberal transfer policy you might be spinning your wheels as they might not accept the credit recommendation. I recommend contacting Cochise College and asking them if they have a list of ACE credit recommendations that they usually accept. The staff at Cochise College has always answered my questions and have never left me waiting beyond any reasonable limit.
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Thanks, sergeant! I will contact them about it. I'm going to go through cochise to get the credit for AIT as well so if it's all on my JST or ACE transcript they "should" accept some or most of them. I'm looking into either AMU or cochise. My end goal is to get a bachelor's in intelligence studies and go OCS. Cochise only offers associates from what I saw. So I'd have to transfer them to AMU. In which I've heard AMU will accept pretty much anything.. so I assume contacting both schools would be best to see what transfers over all. Thanks again for the help though!
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Correct, Cochise offers 2-year degrees only. Consider Excelsior College and Charter Oak State College for your 4-year degree. They are both regionally accredited and well-known for having liberal transfer/acceptance policies. And it turns out Excelsior College recently created an Intelligence bachelor degree.
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Base education. CLEP (3-6 lower level), DANTES (3 lower or upper level), Excelsior (3 lower or upper level). Exam based.
Marine Corps Distance Education (Formerly MCI). I don't know the current process, but several offer ACE credits. 1-4 correspondence exam based, now online.
Community College of the Air Force. I'm not familiar with current format.
Marine Corps Distance Education (Formerly MCI). I don't know the current process, but several offer ACE credits. 1-4 correspondence exam based, now online.
Community College of the Air Force. I'm not familiar with current format.
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Thank you sergeant, but since my AIT was through the Air Force I believe they can award CCAF credits. Anything past that, I couldn't guarantee.
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Some courses could fill electives.
JKO
ATRRS / ALMS
CLEP
Army Logistics University
More info:
https://jtspratley.com/blog/promotion-point-worksheet-ppw
https://jtspratley.com/blog/links-for-your-career-progression-it-lg-hr
JKO
ATRRS / ALMS
CLEP
Army Logistics University
More info:
https://jtspratley.com/blog/promotion-point-worksheet-ppw
https://jtspratley.com/blog/links-for-your-career-progression-it-lg-hr
Promotion Point Worksheet (PPW)
JtSpratley.com is the hub for music, videos, podcasts, and Go Live Lively blogs by Jacqueem Jt Spratley. Read about IT, cybersecurity, and free open source software (FOSS).
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SGT(P) (Join to see) - Have you sent them your JST and VMET? Online or resident courses will likely always equal more knowledge, regardless of credit hours or not. Many JKO and Skillport courses will help you regardless. Don't focus solely on the college degree. Take courses that enhance your abilities as a person, Soldier, 35 CMF, and you'll be better solidified either way.
I'd say search all aforementioned programs and find whats relevant to your goals (plural).
I'd say search all aforementioned programs and find whats relevant to your goals (plural).
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I have not yet sent them my JST because I have yet to apply and enroll in a class. I am currently unsure of what the VMET is. In regards to taking courses that reflect or benefit my career and MOS that is where I saw the conflict. I wanted to take more direct intelligence or analysis courses. End goals to become commissioned with a degree in Signals Intelligence or something beneficial to a different career later. I appreciate the help you are giving me.
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SGT(P) (Join to see) - You should tag your MOS and CMD in this discussion for more attention.
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