Posted on Dec 14, 2016
Wherever you are stationed, do they allow the fleece cap to be worn in uniform when it is below 32 degrees? Do you agree/disagree with this?
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I love how people talk 670-1 and standards when our cold weather gear is TA-50 and not mentioned in 670-1 and you're in a Kansas winter: 10 degrees and a brisk wind.
Gaiters and balaclavas for everyone!
If its cold, wear cold weather gear.
Gaiters and balaclavas for everyone!
If its cold, wear cold weather gear.
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I've heard of the fabled Alaska but have since evolved to the point that I no longer believe that it exists.
But really, any leader that would conduct PT at -35 while not allowing the wear of supplemental attire issued to every Soldier is not much of a leader IMO. I also would have a problem doing regular PT outdoors at all in that weather. Maybe ruck marching for short distances but not PRT.
But really, any leader that would conduct PT at -35 while not allowing the wear of supplemental attire issued to every Soldier is not much of a leader IMO. I also would have a problem doing regular PT outdoors at all in that weather. Maybe ruck marching for short distances but not PRT.
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SGT James Colwell
One of the things drilled into my head as a new E5 was welfare of my soldiers. It is important to train for whatever elements in order to be able to continue the mission, but it is also important to take care of soldiers if the equipment/uniform exists to meet that goal. If fleece caps are authorized TA-50, then utilize what is provided.
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SSG Kyle Stromgren
CW5 (Join to see) - We did PT till -20 the airborne guys did it till -35 we had long johns and gloves and hats still chilly till you got running had a soldier one morning that had to go back as he had over slept and didn't have his long johns on and as he put his dick was starting to freeze to his leg
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after getting Frost Bite in January '76 in norway... I agree they we need them
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MAJ Rene De La Rosa
Having been to South Korea twice, and having the modern stuff, it still boggles my mind that the only thing the Soldiers had during the Korean War was wool. It was still cold with the new fangled gear, and it still gets nasty cold and wet. Taking care of the troops is the ultimate goal here.
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With exception for change of command ceremonies, other official functions or in Basic or AIT where uniformity is of exceptional importance, the way the Army treats cold weather gear is ridiculous. I'm from up North. I'm used to cold weather. However I still dress for it. But that changes with with the amount of exertion a person is putting out, whether the sun is out, whether the wind is blowing, or how acclimatized a person is. For example today I was installing metal roofing in the morning and built a small stoop in the afternoon. Fairly low level exertion, in temps that ranged from about -5 to 5 degrees, wind chill between -20 and -30. I was layered up so strong I could barely see out my sweatshirt hoods. In the same weather shoveling snow, I'll be down to two layers in minutes. If I'm shoveling snow at 32 degrees I'll wear a tshirt and winter hat. At that temp ice fishing, I'll have longjohns, carhartts, and three or four sweathshirts on. Because sitting still, I'll get cold. Long story short, there are occasions where I'll put a fleece cap on well above 32 degrees, even though I can and have handled -40. There are times when I'll wear a PC down below zero. Depends how long I'm outside, what the winds are, and how I'm otherwise dressed. I always wear my fleece under my blouse so I attract less attention. Keeps me warm, and allows me to wear the PC in temps I'd otherwise wear the fleece cap in. Now that I'm in the Air Guard, it seems that people care a lot less about stupid crap like this.
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