Posted on Oct 29, 2020
Which MOS is better for a career, both while in the Army and after, 37F or 35F? What is the day-to-day life like in each MOS?
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I am a 37F Reservist seeking to reenlist into the Active Duty component.
I have 3 main questions:
1) Which career is better while in the Army, 37F or 35F, and why? (my definition of better, is not being stuck in an office)
2) What is day-to-day life of both MOS?
3) Which MOS will prepare me for government work following my service?
Notes: I have an Associate's and Bachelor's Degree in Intelligence Studies with a minor in Counterterrorism, I learned Arabic MSA and Russian, and I love cultures, communicating in different languages, and being out in the environment and am very analytical. I need additional information on both MOSs to come to a conclusion. My ETS is DEC 20.
I realize it is ultimately my decision, but I'd love input from experienced individuals.
I have 3 main questions:
1) Which career is better while in the Army, 37F or 35F, and why? (my definition of better, is not being stuck in an office)
2) What is day-to-day life of both MOS?
3) Which MOS will prepare me for government work following my service?
Notes: I have an Associate's and Bachelor's Degree in Intelligence Studies with a minor in Counterterrorism, I learned Arabic MSA and Russian, and I love cultures, communicating in different languages, and being out in the environment and am very analytical. I need additional information on both MOSs to come to a conclusion. My ETS is DEC 20.
I realize it is ultimately my decision, but I'd love input from experienced individuals.
Edited 5 y ago
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Never enlist into an MOS that requires a selection, if you fail you're needs of the Army.
Enlist into an MOS you like and then apply for the 37F selection. If you pass, you go to 37F Q course. If you fail, you go back to your MOS. and try again
Enlist into an MOS you like and then apply for the 37F selection. If you pass, you go to 37F Q course. If you fail, you go back to your MOS. and try again
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SGT Hunter Mcgaughey
I thought you were already 37F trained? So you wouldn't fail unless you failed physically or am I missing something?
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SGT Hunter Mcgaughey 37F AD is different from 37F RC. The AD version has a selection process and requires Airborne. Theyoght be allowed to transfer directly or they might not. But, if not, my advice is never enlist into an MOS that requires a selection and has a high fail rate because statistically, that person is getting reclassed to something else.
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PSYOP guy here, and former instructor at SWC.
Go 35F if you can. I love my branch, but for you coming from the USACAPOC is a gamble you don’t want to take.
Go 35F if you can. I love my branch, but for you coming from the USACAPOC is a gamble you don’t want to take.
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MAJ Javier Rivera
SGT (Join to see), I have to keep it real. If you like to give it a try, you can later on time permitting; based on what the regiment requires at the moment rank wise. Yes, I was the the PSYOP Recruitng commander once as well!
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You have a better chance of finding employment with intel than Psyops. Intel is a wider market and the skills are more applicable in a wider array of jobs.
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Active 37F is grossly marketable in the civilian world, IDK what the other people are assuming a 37F does by saying it can't hold water next to Intel once you leave the service.
But def enter the Army as something else, then go to Selection for 37F (or 38B) and you will be prized for the language skills and degrees you have.
But def enter the Army as something else, then go to Selection for 37F (or 38B) and you will be prized for the language skills and degrees you have.
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CW2 (Join to see)
SPC (Join to see) marketing, intel, advertising, gov agencies, media production/consulting, anything with social media companies, plus some stuff you'll learn that can't really be discussed here.
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SPC (Join to see)
Thank you so much for your output CW2 (Join to see) my last 2 question would be , what should I be expected to do during the selection process? & do 37F also cover Spanish ?CW2 (Join to see)
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CW2 (Join to see)
SPC (Join to see) yes ARSOF teaches Spanish. There's a whole BN that covers S America.
Theres a few posts in RP already that cover what happens at CA/PO/SF selections. Its a multi-day job interview, physical and mental. All kinds of events.
Theres a few posts in RP already that cover what happens at CA/PO/SF selections. Its a multi-day job interview, physical and mental. All kinds of events.
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SGT (Join to see)
This is the second time I've heard this, SSG. I love the sound of that.
Any reccomendation on improving chances of landing in one?
Any reccomendation on improving chances of landing in one?
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SSG (Join to see)
SGT (Join to see) - the current breakdown for manning is tier 1 assignments are currently SFAB assignments. You can volunteer for assignment with an SFAB.
Tier 2 are FORSCON units. You have a 90% chance of being assigned to a FORSCOM unit. you will either end up in a BN S2, BN MICO, or BDE/DIV S2/G2.
On the other hand, INSCOM assignments are pretty decent. Im currently in Hawaii and have gotten to do some pretty cool stuff like travel throughout Asia.
I will say that I have enjoyed both assignment type and am next on my way to the school house to train the next generation of 35F's
Tier 2 are FORSCON units. You have a 90% chance of being assigned to a FORSCOM unit. you will either end up in a BN S2, BN MICO, or BDE/DIV S2/G2.
On the other hand, INSCOM assignments are pretty decent. Im currently in Hawaii and have gotten to do some pretty cool stuff like travel throughout Asia.
I will say that I have enjoyed both assignment type and am next on my way to the school house to train the next generation of 35F's
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From an old guy, so take it for what it’s worth - there isn’t a whole lot of demand in the civilian world for a person with 37F experience. Someone with 35F experience, on the other hand, can find work virtually anywhere, in non-profits, charities, even for-profit orgs that work with local, state or federal agencies that deal with the public in education, healthcare, law enforcement, infrastructure construction, etc. I had assignments as a 9305 Psyops Officer at Bn, Grp & Div levels but that experience wasn’t germain to my civilian career in AF Intelligence (I worked in that field both before and after my Army service). So if you’re looking to acquire experience that will enhance your job prospects after you leave the Army, I recommend assignments and schooling in Civil Affairs over Psyops. I wish you the best and offer my salute for your service.
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Skip the Army altogether and head to the CIA Special Activities Division.
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I’m a 35F and honestly I have SO much career satisfaction I can truly say I love my job and the unit I work with AND the people are the cherry on top. There will be days that aren’t all sunshine’s and roses but that is to be expected with any job. I highly recommend it but you will do a lot of paperwork as well as walking around and writing memos. If that doesn’t bother you then this will be a cake walk the rest of the job, you’ll learn at the school house.
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Former 35F here. Intel depends on who you are supporting. I never saw it as an "out and about" MOS. All your work is done in a SCIF, the entirety of your MOS training is done in a SCIF. It is the only Intel MOS that is not a collector of Intelligence (I guess GEO isn't either, but they are looking at raw intel before it is processed). Every single piece of intel material you touch has already been processed by someone else and classified. A 35F just makes heads or tails of various intel reports.
Now, I did "go out and about" with those I was supporting, but not in the daily context of my mission focus. It was more or less a reward of being associated with that mission to see some neat things, but none of it was job critical for my products.
One could also get stuck doing some majorly boring things. Imagine being the analyst tasked with the weather forecasts and the impacts of weather on operations. Of course there was the analyst team that found Saddam Hussein, and there was a weather guy in the same SCIF doing far less cool things.
If you want out and about action you probably want 35M or 35S.
You just never know, because four from my reserve unit got sent to support a mission down range, and I was the one that got attached to an Alpha Team and grew a beard out and wore civilians. The others got stuck at the flag poll, and one of them got stuck processing the classified visitor badges as his primary duty.
Then I served state side missions for nearly two years, and only saw the light of day at lunch time.
Now, I did "go out and about" with those I was supporting, but not in the daily context of my mission focus. It was more or less a reward of being associated with that mission to see some neat things, but none of it was job critical for my products.
One could also get stuck doing some majorly boring things. Imagine being the analyst tasked with the weather forecasts and the impacts of weather on operations. Of course there was the analyst team that found Saddam Hussein, and there was a weather guy in the same SCIF doing far less cool things.
If you want out and about action you probably want 35M or 35S.
You just never know, because four from my reserve unit got sent to support a mission down range, and I was the one that got attached to an Alpha Team and grew a beard out and wore civilians. The others got stuck at the flag poll, and one of them got stuck processing the classified visitor badges as his primary duty.
Then I served state side missions for nearly two years, and only saw the light of day at lunch time.
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