Posted on Jun 10, 2016
CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
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CSM Battalion Command Sergeant Major
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Well, in all honesty YOU control the content especially with the new NCOER system. When you do your support form it should be in conjunction with your raters's support form. Once you complete your support form, and your rater approves it, it is up to the rated Soldier (NCO or Officer) to update it with whatever performance objectives that you achieve throughout the rated period. If you do that, and stay engaged the evaluation writes itself. Collaboration SHOULD happen between the rated individual, rater and senior rater, but the key is YOU. If you don't have input on your support form you have nothing to stand on when you get your evaluation.
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CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
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That is spot on CSM......you cannot take "YOU" out of the process
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We just went through this with a 1SG who did a great support form, but never updated any of his performance objectives. He got a great evaluation (he is ranked #2 of 7) but then BN CDR had to bring him in with his company commander to discuss what he had accomplished since January. It was a great teaching point and he is not an advocate of staying engaged with his evaluation. Senior raters often do not get to see what you do day-to-day and the support form is a way to refresh their memory.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
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There are "regulation" and "reality" grounded answers normally offered to this question. I will simply say what an old, retired SSG said to me about my third day of ROTC: "You are your own best career manager. Nobody cares about it more than you."
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CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
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I would echo and agree you are your own and best career manager
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CW5 Andrew J. Foreman
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It should be a collaboration of everyone.
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CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
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Chief I agree but ultimately you have to stand your ground and fight for your evaluation. I had a rater once say something vague like promote when servicemenber has a little more experience something to that fact. I approach him and we had a conversation. I was deployed and asked him to include promote "Now" ahead of peers. I asked what was missing from my performance that he did not include promote now? He was unable to answer plus I forwarded my support form to him which accomplishments and mind you my accomplishments covered the things that was on his support form. I was in the zone for W3 so I had to speak up but I also had the data to support the wording....took all of the emotions out of the equation
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CW5 Andrew J. Foreman
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CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR - Agree. And you should have those tough conversations with your rater and sr. rater. You obliviously know what right looks like, as I would expect from HR Tech. I hope you have the opportunity to mentor and train officer, warrant officers and NCOs on how to effectively write evolutions.
However, there are some bosses that will not move off their comments, especially in the joint world when service don't want to speak "Armiese" on evaluations. That is where a Sr. WO, or CSM can help guide the evaluations. I review all warrant officer OERs in our command. I do not rate any warrants but make sure the rater and sr rater are taking care of top performers and on the flip side not rewarding or inflating poor performers.
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CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
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I do chief provide mentorship. Yes it is necessary to have those crucial conversations when necessary. The Warrants definitely need that Command Chief Warrant Officer at the flag pole to cover our "6" and intervene if necessary and like you said if you are not cutting the mustard not to get an inflated evaluation. I love my job as a warrant we have the ability to interact and mentor.
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