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I understand it's difficult to compare quarterbacks over different times with different rules and regulations, but I'm going to make my case regardless. I believe Tom Brady is the greatest QB of all time (not the greatest player, that's a silly argument), and here's why.

1. Brady's done more with less, more than anyone else (if that makes sense).

The receivers Tom Brady has won Super Bowls with as a QB aren't going into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot, but it's safe to say he hasn't been surrounded with much talent of that caliber throughout his career. The two exceptions; Randy Moss in 2007 (Brady connected with him for 23 TDs) and Rob Gronkowski (2011-present). Other than those two, his receiving cast has been composed of players who few knew before their stints at New England. Prime examples: David Patten, Troy Brown, David Givens, Donte' Stallworth, Jabar Gaffney, Deion Branch, Wes Welker, Danny Amendola, Kenbrell Thompkins and Julian Edelman (to some extent). Now I'm not trying to take away from their respective skill sets; these receivers worked amazingly in the New England offensive scheme and could probably have been successful with many other QBs, but it's hard to deny how quickly these receivers became known after catching passes from Brady. I have to give Edelman a lot of credit though because he's not only transitioned from a college QB to NFL WR (after going in the 7th round), but he fights hard for every yard he gains. He's an excellent punt returner, and to top it off he's not afraid of getting hit across the middle (that 3rd and 14 in the 4th quarter of Super Bowl XLIX comes to mind).

2. His journey from Michigan to the NFL wasn't easy, but very rewarding.

He was buried on the depth chart at Michigan for his freshman and sophomore years of college, with Brian Griese starting at the time. He grew so frustrated he sought advice from assistant athletic director Greg Harden, who helped him build his confidence both on and off the field. Brady battled Drew Henson for the Wolverines' starting job and got it, starting his junior and senior years. Michigan won 20 of 25 games that Brady started and he won the 200 Orange Bowl over Alabama, throwing for 369 yards and 4 TDs.

Success at Michigan led to a less-than-favorable combine performance for Brady. The New England Patriots ultimately selected him with the 199th overall pick in the sixth round (a compensatory pick). Many call this the greatest draft pick in NFL history, considering his career.

3. He's engineered 35 4th QTR comebacks, and 46 game-winning drives.

Four of those GWDs were the 4 Super Bowl games Brady played in. Two of them (XXXVIII and XLIX) were 4th-quarter comebacks. Brady's last 10 game-winning drives have all been 4th-quarter comebacks, dating back to the October 21, 2012 game against the New York Jets (Pats won 29-26). One of the comebacks was the 34-31 thriller against the Denver Broncos in Foxborough (the Patriots, down 24-0 scored 31 unanswered points before overtime). The fact that Brady has been able to face adversity and overcome it so many times is a tribute to his legacy in my opinion.

4. Postseason Legacy

He and the Patriots have won 6 AFC Championships, appearing in 9 of them. He's obviously been part of 6 Super Bowl teams and won 4 of them, earning 3 Super Bowl MVP awards. He's won more playoff games than any other QB, with a playoff record of 21-8. I could go on his Wikipedia page and quote more stats, but I think this gets the message across.

5. His set of intangibles is virtually unparalleled.

I've seen few QBs manage a game the way Brady does or negotiate the pocket the way Brady does. How about Super Bowl XLIX, in the 4th quarter when pressure was coming at Brady from all sides so he shuffled forward and fired down the middle to Edelman on that first 3rd-and-14. The second one was similar, except he fooled Demarcus Dobbs and fired the ball past him for another 21-yard completion to Edelman. Also, while he doesn't do it often, Brady's not afraid to run the ball if he's out of options. He's scored 14 rushing TDs over the course of his career in the regular season, rushing for a total of 823 yards (on 470 attempts, a 1.8 YPC average). It's amazing that he's been able to be so dominant despite his being sacked 364 times in his career. Ben Roethlisberger is the only active QB who's been sacked more (419). Keep in mind that Peyton Manning has played two more years than Brady has, and he's been sacked 284 times.

6. 4-2 is better than 4-0.

Just wanted to put this in here because I'm sure there will be those who believe Joe Montana is the GOAT. It's a solid argument, but let's put this in perspective; Montana may have gotten injured before his chance to get to his 5th, 6th etc. was possible, but that could have also happened to Tom Brady. Montana had chances to win more NFC Championships to get to the big stage, but didn't. It's just how it is. One can argue that Montana threw 11 TDs, 0 INTs in his Super Bowls, which is fine and dandy.. but how much better would Tom Brady's stats be if he had Jerry Rice for two of his Super Bowls, or if he had Randy Moss for two Super Bowls? Montana was surrounded with elite talent in Jerry Rice, Dwight Clark, Freddie Solomon and John Taylor at WR; Roger Craig, Earl Cooper, Ricky Patton and Wendell Tyler at RB. On defense, Ronnie Lott, Eric Wright, Carlton Williamson and Dwight Hicks were some of the best defensive players in the league at that time.

I'm not trying to say Brady's never had a talented team around him because he always has, but his accomplishments in the salary cap era where one can't stack a team with prolific talent across the board is telling of his poise and game-management skills. These are the reasons why I believe Brady to be the best of all-time; he's better than Dan Marino, Johnny Unitas, Peyton Manning, and anyone else, and I'm open to debate on the matter.

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Sounds like a bunch of Brady/Patriots fan...can do no wrong. I'm sure no one play knew spygate was going or just like Brady wouldn't be able to tell the differences in PSI in the balls. BTW, I am not a Niners fan, I am a Colts fan, take your bias eyewear off. Enjoy your fandom gentlemen.
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If Brady actually did something wrong, I for one would not hold him on a pedestal and make excuses.. he should be held responsible for his actions. He's a grown man and can differentiate right and wrong, as can Bill Belichick.

Doesn't your argument make Tom Brady look more innocent? I'm sure the referees (who touch the ball and place it on the line of scrimmage following every down) would have been able to tell if there were a difference in air pressure. There's no legitimate way to get away with a 20% decrease of psi in a football because the refs will find out just from holding it.

Spygate, again was akin to a kid stealing a candy bar from a grocery store. It didn't hurt anybody, and we're all well aware that the taping of signals and practices/games from the sideline was and is still perfectly legal.. but oh no, it was 10 feet higher or so so let's fine Belichick $250,000, the Patriots $500,000 and dock a first-rounder from them. But I suppose them going 16-0 that year in the regular season was because of Spygate?

I have no problem with the Colts, but you and I both know they got stomped on and deflated footballs weren't the reason.
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I've been a 9ers fan my whole life...
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Oh and the Niner's never cheated, Both Montana and Jerry "Sticky" Rice have admitted to it. Rice used stick um on his gloves to "help him catch the ball," he is another one of those guys who said "we all did it back then." Montana admits receivers would spray their shirts with silicone so as opposing defensive players could never get a grip on them. Don't forget Montana never had to win a conference on the road, something that Brady has done.
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You wrote this question on April 14, 2015, SPC Patrick Caldwell! You postulated that Tom Brady was the greatest of all time.
Well, on February 7, 2021, the answer to that question came in definitive fashion as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers destroyed the Kansas City Chiefs, 31-9! Tom Brady is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME!
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Results = records = recognization = accolades = Hall of Fame in Canton, OH! LTC Stephen C.
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Facts do tend to show that.
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My opinion is Tom Brady
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Even though you agree with my opinion Sgt Fred Lawley, I'm curious as to why you believe Brady's the GOAT?
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Not even close to Joe Montana...
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Who is the greatest QB of all-time and why?
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Jonny Unitas would be the greatest Quarterback in my opinion.

Pittsburgh Steelers 1955
Baltimore Colts 1956-1972
San Diego Chargers 1973

10x Pro Bowl Selection
5x AP First-Team All-Pro
2x AP Second-Team All-Pro
MVP 1957, 1959, 1964, 1967
3x Pro Bowl MVP 1959, 1960, 1963
NFL Man of the Year 1970
Super Bowl V Champion 1970
3x NFL Champion 1958, 1959, 1968
NFL 50th Anniversary All-Time Team
NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team
NFL 1960's All-Decade Team

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Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee 1979

Modern day I would say Peyton Manning and would diffidently be in the running for all time.
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Unitas in my opinion doesn't fit the bill because he wasn't consistent enough in his career. He was certainly a great in his time, but some stats of his are questionable to me. Unitas never had a 60% completion % or better in any season of his career and finished with a 54.6% completion percentage. He also threw 290 TDs to 253 INTs, along with gaining 7.8 yards per attempt on average. To top it off, Unitas had a career 78.2 QBR, with his best year being a 97.4 in 1965. He's won a Bowl and 3 NFL Championships, not to mention he's been individually recognized plenty of times.. but I don't see him as the GOAT because of a lack of consistency throughout.

Manning for me doesn't take the cake due to playoff woes. 11-13 in the playoffs and a 1-2 Super Bowl record. It's safe to say he's been surrounded with more elite talent at skill positions than Brady has, yet hasn't achieved as much with his teams. Manning may be the greatest regular season QB of all time, but not the greatest period.
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Johnny Unitas was my favorite as well, MSgt (Join to see), regardless of arguments and statistics to the contrary!
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Mark Wahlberg! Wait, I got distracted by the picture.. What was the question? :D
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I just loved that moment following Super Bowl XLIX, CMSgt (Join to see). Wahlberg reassured Brady that he was the greatest QB ever time and time again. I thought the Edelman-Brady moment was great too. You could see Edelman was woozy following that hit he took from Kam Chancellor (the 3rd-and-14 for a 21 yard completion in the 4th.. the first one, anyway), but he wanted to let Brady know he was the best because he is.
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I love me some Mark Wahlberg... :)
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Oddly, this popped up in my email. How incredibly ironic given I live in Tampa and he just GOAT on Sundays Super Bowl!
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I am sorry, this is a subject that has been beaten death. It is a subjective question. I could channel my inner John Madden and say Brett Favre (he does hold a ton of records) or Manning (the good one not the whiny bitch in New York). I could go with Montana who seemed larger than life. I could go with a guy like Fran Tarkenton who created the scrambling quarterback (mostly out of survival instinct), but ultimately, a better question is who is your favorite quarterback of all time as that embraces the subjective nature of the question. I would answer that with Tarkenton. Watching his highlights is hilarious because he does seem to run about seventy yards on every third play or so.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill, I can't go with Favre because of how long he played in the league and how many interceptions he threw (336). Wasn't really much of a QB his first two years starting. In 1993 he led the league in INTs with 24, throwing only 19 TD passes. In 2005 he threw 20 TDs and 29 INTs; 22:22 in 2008. It's hard to call Favre the best, though his longevity is something to take note of and he did have some career years in Green Bay and with the Vikings in '09.

I mentioned this in another post, but the reason why I can't consider Peyton Manning the GOAT either is because of his lack of success in the playoffs. Too many one-and-dones, an 11-13 records in the postseason with a 1-2 Super Bowl record. Side note; in the 2006 postseason (in which the Colts won the Super Bowl), Manning's passer rating was lower (70.5) than in the 2014 postseason where the Broncos lost to the Colts 24-13 and Manning overthrew numerous passes downfield (75.5). I thought that was interesting.
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SPC Patrick Caldwell I agree. I wouldn't go with either Manning, or Favre either for some of the reasons you mentioned. Play long enough, and you will collect records just by attrition. Manning, his playoff record eliminates him from the discussion.
As I said I will go with Fran Tarkenton just because of the way he played the position. It is not something I can back with stats or numbers, just a personal opinion. He was the first of the scrambling running avoiding "now you see me now you don't" quiarterbacks.
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I've got absolutely no issue with personal opinion; I'd never want to coerce anyone into thinking Brady is the GOAT. I'm here to make my point and to back it up with facts because that's the best way to present an argument. Of course I never saw Tarkenton play, but I do like watching footage of him and seeing him extend plays with his legs. It's like watching the founder of the Wilsons, Newtons and Kaepernicks out there.
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If you're talking 2K quarterbacks, Tom Brady.
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However, CPT (Join to see), I'm asking about greatest QBs of all-time.
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Then, my answer is still Tom Brady for greatest QB of all-time.
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Well I suppose if you're from Wisconsin that pick makes sense, SGT (Join to see). He had plenty of quality years (including a great year with Minnesota in 2009) however it's safe to say any QB that's played as long as he has could accumulate the passing records he holds. In a 19-year NFL career (18 of them as a starter), Favre did throw 508 TDs.. but he also threw an NFL-leading 336 INTs. Particularly concerning years for Favre were 1993 (19 TDs, 24 INTs), 1999 (22 TDs, 23 INTs), 2005 (20 TDs, 29 INTs) and 2008 with the Jets (22 TDs and INTs). He may have been one of the better QBs of the modern era, but he turned the ball over too much for me to consider him the GOAT. His playoff record is better than Peyton Manning's at 13-11, and he did throw 44 playoff TDs.. but he also threw a whopping 30 INTs. If his TD to INT ratio were lower, I'd put him higher on my list. He's definitely a top-10/top-15 though. I do have to admit he had some crazy-good years, and his career QBR (86.0) isn't bad at all. He even posted a 107.2 QBR in 2009 with the Vikings. That's a great year.
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I saw him play, and all since.
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From the footage I've seen of Tarkenton, he was definitely one of the greats, but I can't label him the GOAT. 342 TDs and 266 INTs, a career QBR of 80.4 and a career completion percentage of 57% are all decent statistics, but aren't quite Brady/Montana numbers. His first three years with the Vikings saw him throw a little more than 1 INT/TD (55 TDs, 57 INTs from 1961-1963). This is not to discredit Tarkenton from being considered a great, because he is; he's just not the GOAT.
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wow. good question, with so many capable responses. you have to look at each era. Montana, Brady, Manning. those are the ones that i remember watching, but i am SURE i'm leaving greats out.
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SSgt (Join to see), Peyton Manning is probably the greatest regular-season QB of all-time because of his accumulative statistics and track record in the regular season, but I can't include him in GOAT discussion because of his playoff legacy (11-13 in the playoffs, 1 Super Bowl ring with 2 losses). It's a good question in my opinion because it offers a lot of insight from various opinions regarding which QBs contain the better skill sets and what they've done with their skill sets.
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LCDR Jeffery Dixon, what makes Unitas the GOAT?
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SPC Patrick Caldwell - LCDR Jeffery Dixon - Johnny Unitas revolutionized the modern quarterback.
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