Posted on Mar 29, 2018
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So we kick out Russian diplomats and Russia closes down St Petersburg consulate. Who is hurt worse?
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CPT Jack Durish
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From the diplomats point of view, I'd rather be coming home to America than Russia...
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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On that we can agree
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LTC Stephen C.
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Damn good answer, CPT Jack Durish!
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
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I wonder how many have gone U.A. From those embassy’s and consulates since the announcement..
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COL Deputy G2
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Yea- I’m thinking they are worse off. But I don’t have much experience in the embassy stuff.
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CPT(P) Rifle Company Commander
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Russia. They lost diplomats suspected of being intelligence agents in 28 countries, for a total of 161 removed. Some of those countries are key targets of intelligence gathering for Russia, like Ukraine, while others aren't that critical (as far as I know) like Sweden. It definitely comes at a cost, but I think they come out on the losing end.
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Who is worse off, expelled diplomats from US or from Russia?
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Hard to say. Most of theirs are buried in like ticks and have been for years.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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Russia exponentially. Honestly Putin is a bigger kid than Trump when it comes to sour grapes like this.......Putin will severely damage his own countries interests just to make an impact pouting. Never seen any dictator before slash tourism to their own country to make a point like Putin just did. Tourism is a major hard currency earner. Really dumb and shortsighted, hope he is happy because nobody on this side of the pond gives one whit that the St. Petersburg Embassy is closed except...........potential tourists to Russia.
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That's a good point. Come to think of it, I have never even considered visiting Russia. They need a new marketing department.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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MAJ (Join to see) - I worked with first generation Russians when I worked at Verizon that emigrated to the United States after Boris Yeltsin's revolution. Back then they were flying back and forth every once in a while to Russia then back to the United States. The emigre's universally hate Putin now. Thats pretty much how you can tell a Russian paid troll on the Internet, they will not speak negatively of Putin. There are a few nationalists among the emigre community that think Putin is the greatest man that ever walked the Earth (because Putin's party appeals to Russian Nationalists). However what the emigres told me about corruption in the local police and how easily it was to get whacked on the street, never had much of a desire to visit Russia. Hell, some of them even openly bribed the police as well as Customs when they were over there visiting, second nature to them. They need a Democracy before I risk my hide over there on a sightseeing trip. Mexico is a lot safer than Russia.
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SN Greg Wright
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Russia by far. They lost their ability to spy on boomer movements out of Washington.
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MCPO Roger Collins
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Not much there, Greg. We used to sail on surface to the 600 fathom curve, then disappear for two months.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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The are good at Humint and need to rely on it more than we do.

I think that MCPO Collins is right movement do not tell them much, but classified operational data and tech does
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SFC Jim Ruether
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I heard that the Rooskies were to close to the Naval Shipyards and a Submarine Pen in Washington State so they were planning on closing the Russian Consulate there anyway.
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