Posted on Dec 7, 2013
SFC Kevin Cornett
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As the Military transitions back towards a "peacetime" stance, will the leaders, (junior and senior alike) forget lessons learned? Will training revert back to check the block exercises, and will budget cuts leave us woefully unprepared for future conflicts? How do we prevent the "training for the last war we fought" as was done after Vietnam, and then again after Desert Storm? Are these real issues that deserve attention, or are they unfounded fears. Thank you in advance for your input.
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SFC Motor Transport Operator
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if we are heading in that direction, then it will be a long trip especially when we are the so called "world police".
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CW3 Kevin Storm
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Right after schools got a higher priority over combat experience said everything to me about the enlisted way of life for the future. W
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LTC Paul Mullins
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Yes, we are going back to painting rocks again. It may not literally be painting rocks, but it is that mentality. We are now starting to create more and more bureaucracy when we don't need it. i.e. creating an excel spreadsheet that needs updating daily for a statistic that no one paid any attention to until the past year.

But, as a positive we are also starting to train as we did before 9/11 on legacy and new missions. As MSG Cunningham stated above, our officers and NCOs who have only been in since 9/11 don't know how to do peacetime training and daily activities. You get a very blank stare on things that a lot of us take for granted. Like the Green/Amber/Red cycle we reinstituted here at Ft. Stewart a few months ago. That hasn't been used in over 10 years.

And the budgets are shrinking with the personnel reductions and this will continue for the forseeable future. For those who have lived through one or two of these post-war eras, we know it will get worse. They will have us hit bottom before we start climbing and eventually reach an even keel (to borrow a Navy term).

So, yes, painting rocks is back in vogue, but so are a lot of good things to.
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Lol, Marines paint rocks during wartime, peacetime just gets stupid... well, at least from what I've heard.  I think the Marine Corps has been and is doing a good job at training for every clime and place.  
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SFC James Baber
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I think this is a good thread for those we are trying to get to join can see the substance of some things we discuss between us as current and former military, soft spoken as well as informational and mentoring types of postings.


We also have fun at times while remaining professional.

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SPC Chad Force
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Wow this post brings back memories.  I remember rocks being painted at Ft. Hood, and even grass being painted at Ft. Lewis.  God forbid there be a brown patch during a dog and pony show.  On the other hand, I also remember walking to the field carrying a SAW...while assigned as a Bradley driver...in order to conduct valuable training when funds for fuel were limited.  There were good and bad things sent our way by the chain of command, but Jr NCO's and even individuals had opportunities to excel.  For me individually the biggest impact of the low funding levels was the fact that I could not get a single, residential combat arms related school...even as battalion soldier of the year! Sure wanted a try at Ranger or Sniper school...but would have jumped at ANY school remotely related to my job.  Also remember some great individual and squad level training during SGT's time...sad that we usually only took a break from work details once a week to actually train while in garrison .
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MAJ Joseph Parker
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SFC Cornett: Great question! The answer is that most leadership won't forget the lessons learned, but the organizational dynamics of the Army, political pressures, and budgetary constraints will inevitably push training into a showcase mode at best and as in times past the military will not be fully prepared.  Some of the RP readers may remember TF Smith from Korea, and soldiers preparing for "OHIO" before WWII. This question has been raised since after the Revolutionary War, and was the very reason for the founding of West Point in 1802, so it is not an unfounded fear. It has been that way ever since.


Of course, junior leaders can just go with the flow. Do minimal training because there isn't enough money, not enough ammo, too hard to be innovative. Nobody really cares anyway. Don't rock the boat. Chances are there won't be any hostile action; and if there is the unit will get everything it needs and there will be time to get ready. Most leaders are more than willing to bet their soldiers lives on that. In the end, careers are far more important. Right?


Wrong. Leaders must train with whatever resources they have, even if there are none at all. Every junior leader owes it to the troops in their charge to have them ready for combat and their mission at all times, no excuses about budgets, Washington, whatever. The enemy won't allow the excuses, the troops won't forgive the excuses, their parents and families won't accept the excuses, and those excuses will sit in the junior leader's heart forever, if they even survive. The same goes to the supporting units' excuses. Think of it this way: would any unit quit fighting because they ran out of resources? Hell no. They would fight to the death. We train the way we fight. There were lots of ways we did it. Today's SMs will do it, too.  


Apologies for the long post. Thank you for your excellent service, SFC Cornett!

 

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SSgt Kevin Beckley
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I hope not. I remember when I got out in 1988 and joined the Army National Guard I was to be a 52 Charley. We worked on house refrigerators and painted curbs. As an E5 Sgt It was humiliating. Then Desert Storm Broke out and since I was in a mash unit. Army took our Doctors and Nurses to Fill another unit. So we painted.
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