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Should be something else for the exploration of space, that should also include satellites(except for national defense and such), but if it comes to a point to where we need combat fighters in space, Air Force. With the other branches providing for their specialties. ie; combat on a distant plant would be some form of the Marines and/or Army. That is all far fetched at this point in time, but our forces have enough to deal with on this planet at current.
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It already exists, NASA. Just put Stars and Bars in charge of it. To me it'd be a Joint Command.
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Without hesitation, the United States Air Force to lead it. Heck, space is one of the Air Force's major commands. However, this should be a joint command, taking orders directly from the DoD/SECDEF.
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It seems pretty obvious that in the future wars will occur in space. To staff large warships in space an organization similar to the navy would be used. To do ship to ship raids you'll need an organization similar to the Marines, and for sustained land operations you'll need an Army. Air support for ground troops would either require a dedicated branch of the Army or a support role for the navy in this future warfare scenario. Essentially the Air Force would be obsolete in this type of war.
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Reading through the comments, I find it funny that most of the Navy are the only ones calling for it to fall under the Navy control; everyone else is either for it's own branch or part of the AF.
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Capt (Join to see)
I have issue with fight ship mentality. We the Air Force have learned from the navy to "set the fleet" "set the base" "defend the base" from the navy.
How many successful launches has the navy had to actually get into the arena we are discussing? Vs the Air Force.
How many successful launches has the navy had to actually get into the arena we are discussing? Vs the Air Force.
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MAJ (Join to see)
GySgt John Olson - When I was a Marine I remember being told that the only reason there is a Marine Corps is because American citizens wanted one. There's probably a lot of truth there. Since serving in the Army, I've heard the argument that the Marines should be folded into the Army and turned into a "Ranger-like" unit, keeping their uniforms and some customs. I see some benefit to that.
And I agree whole-heartedly, the AF wastes an insane amount of money dropping bombs that do very little to help the guys on the ground besides making a lot of noise and giving the news stations something to show on the 6 o'clock news. There's no reason why another branch couldn't do what they do.
We'd probably get along well together. I was hell-bent on flying a helicopter for the Army but the Infantry life just called to me. There's something about being the boots on the ground that I loved. There's nothing else quite like it.
And I agree whole-heartedly, the AF wastes an insane amount of money dropping bombs that do very little to help the guys on the ground besides making a lot of noise and giving the news stations something to show on the 6 o'clock news. There's no reason why another branch couldn't do what they do.
We'd probably get along well together. I was hell-bent on flying a helicopter for the Army but the Infantry life just called to me. There's something about being the boots on the ground that I loved. There's nothing else quite like it.
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Hopping on board with the Separate Service folks. Here's the thing everyone's looking at: defining the service by the requirements of today's operating environment. When you're talking about near-Earth operating environment, we're fine with the division of responsibilities as they are. Why? Because the primary operation of space is based right here on Earth. When we start pushing into the solar system with actual manned vehicles, then we might start talking about shifts in the operating environment and which service would handle what the best, but you are still talking within easier reach of Earth. When you're talking about actually breaching past the solar system and into outer space, reaching a new solar system and planets, now you're talking about a completely new operational environment, one which would probably best fall under a blended service due to the extreme variance of operations required.
And the bigger question still, should this even be a military organization at all? Or even a country's organization? NASA wasn't, even though there were military personnel that were (and are) astronauts. Such might be with deep space exploration. But ultimate control may best be put under a different agency than the military.
And the bigger question still, should this even be a military organization at all? Or even a country's organization? NASA wasn't, even though there were military personnel that were (and are) astronauts. Such might be with deep space exploration. But ultimate control may best be put under a different agency than the military.
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SGT Tony Clifford
To the last point, we'll eventually have permanent colonies on other worlds. Eventually, they'll grow resentful of being ruled from across space and seek independence. Only with the breakup of the British empire following WWII did this ever happen peacefully. War will eventually come to space. To think otherwise is dangerously naive.
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SSgt Ryan Sylvester
SGT Tony Clifford - Again, you're looking at from the eyes of today's world. And from the perspective of world view. Yeah, eventually we'll have colonies, but I'm not so sure that will happen while the world exists as it does today. I think any push beyond the solar system is only going to come after it becomes an issue of human survival, rather than profit (because while pushing into deep space may be profitable, it's also going to be hugely expensive). I don't know, maybe it will be a mercantile, colonial empire. But I believe it will more likely be for mutual survival.
Does that mean we won't need a military or defense force? In either case? Heck no. Who knows what we'd end up encountering out there, even without the idea of colonies going for independence. All I'm saying is that it won't be a purely military effort. Incorporated, maybe, as you'd require technical and operational training and capabilities among any deep space vessel. But you're going to have civilians driving the scientific (and the probably colonization) endeavors, as well. And it would probably be better to build such an agency from the ground up to account for the different requirements and operational needs.
Does that mean we won't need a military or defense force? In either case? Heck no. Who knows what we'd end up encountering out there, even without the idea of colonies going for independence. All I'm saying is that it won't be a purely military effort. Incorporated, maybe, as you'd require technical and operational training and capabilities among any deep space vessel. But you're going to have civilians driving the scientific (and the probably colonization) endeavors, as well. And it would probably be better to build such an agency from the ground up to account for the different requirements and operational needs.
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I say a separate branch simply due to the fact that it is its own unique domain. Now, by the same logic you could say cyberspace needs to be its own, but cyberspace presents a much different challenge and requirements.
From Bill Dries, USAF, "For a particular task, a component is designated as the lead and is then “supported” by the other components to complete its mission. To sustain this model, the military departments develop capabilities to dominate their domains." To me, this would come down to having those assets in the domain be under a single entity, not multiple. It seems like it would have issues with command at that point.
From Bill Dries, USAF, "For a particular task, a component is designated as the lead and is then “supported” by the other components to complete its mission. To sustain this model, the military departments develop capabilities to dominate their domains." To me, this would come down to having those assets in the domain be under a single entity, not multiple. It seems like it would have issues with command at that point.
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