Posted on May 21, 2014
Who was in the Air Force during the SrA/Sgt transition?
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I came into the service in 1974, at the age of 18. During that time the Air Force decided to go with the SrA rank (E-4) and then Sgt (E-4). That memory stays with me as something original in the post Vietnam era.
Any thoughts or ideas about this? I kind of like the two-tiered E-4 idea.
Any thoughts or ideas about this? I kind of like the two-tiered E-4 idea.
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I thought the AF should've kept SrA, moved Sgt to E-5, SSgt to E-6, and deleted the title TSgt. At least then we would've been more in line with the Army and USMC. I served in a lot of joint environments, and it was weird when people senior to me kept thinking I was the senior.
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I was one of the last to hold Sgt rank. Sure was a pain in the ass correcting everyone.
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SSgt (Join to see)
Yeah I did too and as you can see in my picture at Rhein Mein on a TDY the Blue Star, Later I got the silver, yay.
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When I first entered the Air Force in 1966 there was the rank of A3C,Airman third Class, (one stripe) (E2) A2C, Airman Second Class. (two stripes) ((E3) and A1C, Airman 1st Class, (E4) (three stripes) When i got to be and Airman First Class it wasn't because i got promoted, I still had two stripes, they had just changed the titles. When i made E4 it was no longer A1C but now Sergeant (E4) which I was promoted to while serving in Viet Nam. Currently E4 is Senior Airman. They should have just left it alone in the beginning in My opinion.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter I was in the AF when the Airman Basic, Airman, Airman 1st Class, SRA(NC), SGT. Confusing. Leaders Change to keep their jobs.
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Using the Warrant Officer rank the way it should be used is a valuable tool for command leadership. However, there are those who will argue that Warrant Officers are simply taking jobs away from either senior NCO's or Jr. Officers. This should not be the case. The CWO's are experts in their field... expertise gained from the full spectrum of experience from enlisted to officer. In the Marine Corps the CWO has the horsepower that senior NCO's lack... and credibility that both enlisted and officers have come to expect. The CWO is a very respected rank in the Corps. If the Air Force does go back to having a WO rank, it should not be in the roll of a glorified E7 or watered down Lt. Do it right.
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I was and what a weird concept. After my star got colored in I became a night shift supervisor and a dorm manager within six months with no pay raise. Also I was a reporting official and got screwed out of staff sgt. I was 2 points shy and they stopped doing the carryover. I had bad timing on this for sure.
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I think we should bring it back, kind of like the Army's Specialist/Corporal ranks.
But it would take a lot to implement it. The current rank structure does not include E-4s as NCOs. There are Senior Airmen who are capable of the responsibility of being a Sergeant, and most promote to SSgt fairly quickly.
But I do not foresee a return to it.
But it would take a lot to implement it. The current rank structure does not include E-4s as NCOs. There are Senior Airmen who are capable of the responsibility of being a Sergeant, and most promote to SSgt fairly quickly.
But I do not foresee a return to it.
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SSgt (Join to see)
Yeah I am with you there SSgt Hirner. I missed going from the blue star to the silver star. It really meant something but you never know with these jokers, they could change it just to change.. lol
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I went into the Air Force in 1992. The official change had occurred just before I went in. It was in May 1991 that no more promotions to the rank of Sergeant were made. I served with quite a few Buck Sergeants. These sergeants slowly got promoted or got out over the years. It's my understanding that the last person to hold this rank left active duty in 1998 or 1999. When I left active duty in 1996, my discharge certificate says "Sgt", even though I was always only a Senior Airman. I guess it was an old leftover in the computer system. I kind of wish they still had the buck sergeant rank even if they did away with the title of Senior Airman instead. The two tier E-4 ranks scheme works for the Army, and I think it worked for the Air Force while it lasted. I think it could work again, but I don't see the Air Force bringing it back. Heck, they won't even bring back warrant officers even though they are legally authorized by Congress to do so.
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SSgt (Join to see)
I hate the SRA/SGT transitions. Not too bad with the SRA rank as a transition but SGT/NCO with the SRA being and NCO..
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Sgt Celeste Abilene
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I got out in 1995 as E-4-Sgt, but when my honorable discharge certificate arrived it stated SrA. I sent it back for correction. I never got a corrected version. ☹️
I got out in 1995 as E-4-Sgt, but when my honorable discharge certificate arrived it stated SrA. I sent it back for correction. I never got a corrected version. ☹️
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SrA James Cannon
Sgt Celeste Abilene - That's weird, because I left active duty in August of 1996 as a Senior Airman. I never held the rank of Buck Sergeant, but my discharge certificate says "SGT".
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The "Buck" Sergeant rank was one of additional responsibility as opposed to the Senior Airman. Additionally, the star in the rank insignia was colored in after the rank of Buck Sergeant. E-5 is officially the NCO Rank now, and If I am correct, we are the only Service without Warrant Officers. Security Forces Airmen were much more involved these last 13 years than any other time in our little History.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
True, MSgt Mata, We are the only service without Warrant Officers. Back before the introduction of "Buck" Sergeant E4, three stripes was called Airman First Class, (E4) now of course E4 is Senior Airman. In both cases A1C and SRA as ranks they had enough experience to handle added duties and be responsible for others.
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