Why am I the only Navy Sailor in history, the only SAM Sea Air Mariner, ever identified assigned crew of FFG's?

I've never seen a post like that. I find it very strange. Talk about getting reviewed. He sure is asking for it here among some real Hard Chargers.

Have a great afternoon MSG.

Cpl Mark A. Morris And all this time Mark, I thought that I was the smartest and best looking Marine of all time.......

I wonder, do all Marines claim the high ground? Perhaps, it's a Corp trait.

Good response

SCPO Morris Ramsey - Not sure if you can read this PDF link I created SAM Manpower Crunch will explain SAM Manpower Drawndown 1994 the same year I enlisted 18. Supposedly there were only 900 SAM in the whole Navy that last year it was recruited. Would not mind if you had some feeback on this report. It is very likely considering there were only 14 or so FFG that possibly allowed a billet to a SAM, that I was 1 of very few, considering that 900 SAM were distributed evenly in all units beyond the FFG. There were no other ships allowing for even a possible billet in those years but the FFG. All other SAM Billets would of been shore units.

PO3 Aaron Hassay When did the SAM Program start. When was the first FFG commissioned? Those dates would allow for many SAM recruits to have served on figs.

SCPO Morris Ramsey - 1994 when I joined there were approximately 2970 units (pg 17) of which only 14 were FFG (pg 19) . The reports also state the SAM Program was drawn down and only 900 SAMs were accounted for (pg 10). I was 1 of those. I don't know if you read the report. I never met another SAM. I met alot of USN and TAR.

Senior Chief,


Please give me some insight on my research discovery. You can find the reports yourself online with google search 1994 DOD Manpower Requirement Reports.

1994 DOD Manpower Requirement Reports show the following.

900 SAM enlisted in all of Navy AD and Reserve disbursed randomly evenly I assume..aka not all placed on FFG’s of which just a few had billets open that even that possible match

The whole enlistment package was drawing down.


1994 is the years I enlisted a SAM 18 into a program the Navy was drawing down.

What kind of leadership, funding, acknowledgement, awareness would 1 assume a rare SAM would 1994 find assigned to a FFG when you are sent home for weeks in between monthly duty, with full shipboard requirement in PQS.

CPO (Join to see) i’m impressed Chief! Most don’t know ANGLICO...

Sgt Wayne Wood - We had a team and Recon Element, that supported us at a bridge site in Iraq, during the march to Baghdad. The Battle of Nasiriyah, RCT1 was bogged down, and we needed a back route into the town, so RCT5 and British Marines could flank around. We were tasked to Build a Bridge in less then 96 Hours over a 150 ft Gap of saddam Cana. We needed an ANGLICO with Recon Element, for Security and to call for CAS, if we needed it. This is when I found out about them, and ran into latter on also in Afghanistan. They were used all over Iraq, and in Afghanistan.

CPO (Join to see) - Never denied an order. I was never given orders options for this command. My original question has nothing to do with orders I was never offered or given. I am just trying to figure out my enlistment and trying to find some others that had the same.

Never was offered these orders. I would not deny these orders as well. My original question was to find another that had the orders I had. I have not found one yet.

I have to rely on you a bit.

The rarity is isolating which is not healthy in a service that works on teams.

This odd situation has made me feel odd with myself for now my whole darn adult life. Enter a 5150 a few times.

I have never met another SAM (save 2 other guys in boot camp) in the fleet.

The particulars are, if matched with my case, would be taking a 18 year old who just graduated boot camp meritoriously paygrade advanced, and then assign him to an undermanned ffg in deck, and as an apprentice make him PQS in all watchstanding Helmsman Lookouts Damage Control etc etc etc. Damn I was even trying to get a Surface Warfare Pin as the full time sailors.

No one thought I might actually destroy my civilian life off the ship, my college education,my relationships off and on the ship.

I was recruited into the SAM enlistment, with a goal to go to college, graduate, become an officer while simultaneously being in the Navy as a SAM.

The difference between a reserve center and a FFG?

No one considered I might have severe stress anxiety physical and mental reactions to the load of requirements thrown on me by the FFG and my desire to nail it with my military bearing and attention to details learned and achieved in bootcamp.


But I can safely say I never succeeded in school, sports, or bootcamp without nearly daily coaching leadership monitoring understand adapt grow develop lead.

The young guys full time on the FFG always would call me a fuck-n reservist as if I was the wrong color race gender.

They never understood I was losing my sh-t, my life, my future, all my initial dreams.

I will say this if my father was a Navy Veteran and new for 1 day I was assigned like this to a FFG, I am sure he would of stepped in quick and questioned such and solved such.

But I met my father after I was done with my enlistment and broken up listless doing odd jobs to survive sacrificing what was left of my body to mow lawns with a lawnmower I found, demolition jobs and hauling to make a buck to eat. I did fairly good at that.

Who was my father? I met him, he was found in the care of the VA 100% Permanent and Total due Vietnam Service Army Infantry 1966-68. He passed a year and half ago.

He was not around to monitor me, an say something is wrong here, coming home sea sick beat up confused ill unable to really understand just what happened to me even after just a weekend deployed underway on the ship.


My mom and fiancé, was there and I am sure would hurt I am sure seeing me like this. Mom RIP!

My fiancé left me just shortly after the 1998 Navy Army Transfer off the ship was Permanent Medical Disqualified by MEPS, as I have displayed and finally got admission about.

You want to talk about depression, no health care, poor kid income averaging $5000 a year in these years, going to sea with a FFG every month, ready for war 24/7 readiness, fiancé left etc etc and no leadership monitoring.

Ill related it to trying to learn NFL Football by just reading the play book for weeks in your room and then be thrown in on game day(a game that last 2-3 days at a minimum straight hours). And be expected to fit in perform and succeed individually and as a team as if you were there practicing the whole month with the team, as weapons are firing going 30 knots 0 Dark Thirty Midwatch. And these guys in deck will lay hands on you and gang up on you as if it is a prison reservist vrs active duty. Ill lay that at the hands of just angry 18 year olds who know no better but when we were alone on the ship wherever it was that is the real deal I was in fear and isolated and singled out as that reservist not a United States Navy Sailor trying his best with what he was given, losing his Sh-.

And the things you learn after is the SAM enlistment had no healthcare benefits off ship, and you will never be able to go the VA because, after 5 years of assignment to the FFG you will not have accumulated enough active duty time to qualfiy as a veteran for veteran purposes.


It was a rubix cube no one I have found has ever encountered.

I am just looking for some shipmates to like be friends with.

I suppose the problem I encounter is one I want to understand, I was not a retard, and this situation this apprenticeship, would not work anywhere anyplace and the Navy does not do this on a regular or ever basis.

You joined the SAM program the first year it was recruited 1984. I joined 1994 the year it was drawn down and only 900 SAM were accounted for. 1994 DOD Manpower requirement reports qualify this. It is random to be the last year of anything. I had 8 years left till 2002. The SAM enlistment was scuttled the same year I signed it. No admin even knew or monitored me on the FFG I was assigned till 1999. I tried to transfer into the Army to get off the ship 1998 and was Medically Disqualified 1998.