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I'll pile on LTC Stephen F. 's comment. Besides the definition differences there's a significant cultural and performance aspect to "weapon". A weapon is something you must learn to be competent with and use only on proper orders and within the Rules of Engagement. We expect our MILs to know and properly maintain and use weapons appropriately. Don't get too wrapped around the axle on vessels and ships. Our new Zumwalt Destroyer is longer and heavier than the WW-2 cruisers and will actually fill the role of the old Battleship in the Naval Fire Support role which was reduced. So besides all the vertical launch and other weapons systems, it's two 155mm guns are equivalent to a battery of six Army 155s. Now don't get me going on frigates which were built larger than destroyers.....
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SPC Margaret Higgins I do not consider your question to be naive.
In the military guns are sometimes associated with field guns which are a type of artillery.
There are weapons which use kinetic energy such as rifles, machine and sub-machine guns and pistols and revolvers. There are weapons which are held in the hand such as combat knives and sometimes bayonets.
Similar to the navy referring to vessels as either ships of vessels - they tend to cringe if you call a naval vessel a boat.
In the military guns are sometimes associated with field guns which are a type of artillery.
There are weapons which use kinetic energy such as rifles, machine and sub-machine guns and pistols and revolvers. There are weapons which are held in the hand such as combat knives and sometimes bayonets.
Similar to the navy referring to vessels as either ships of vessels - they tend to cringe if you call a naval vessel a boat.
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PO2 Skip Kirkwood
":Ships" and "boats" are different things. A "boat" is something that, in the ordinary course, is picked up and carried aboard a ship. Submarines, also, are "boats."
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Cpl (Join to see)
A ship no matter how big, feels boat-like after a few months of living on it. Therefore, ships are boats.
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"Why are weapons not called guns?"
I truly do not understand what you're asking with this question..
However,
Simple Definition of weapon
: something (such as a gun, knife, club, or bomb) that is used for fighting or attacking someone or for defending yourself when someone is attacking you
If you are looking for a literal response, than, All guns CAN BE weapons, but not all guns ARE weapons.
If you're looking for something else out of this discussion you'll need to be a bit less cryptic general and limited in your question
I truly do not understand what you're asking with this question..
However,
Simple Definition of weapon
: something (such as a gun, knife, club, or bomb) that is used for fighting or attacking someone or for defending yourself when someone is attacking you
If you are looking for a literal response, than, All guns CAN BE weapons, but not all guns ARE weapons.
If you're looking for something else out of this discussion you'll need to be a bit less cryptic general and limited in your question
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I realize that to some, this is a "dumb" question. Maybe even idiotic. However, the only dumb question: is the one not asked.
If I knew the answer to this question, I would not have asked it.
If I knew the answer to this question, I would not have asked it.
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SPC Margaret Higgins
A big HUGE Thank You to you, SSG (Join to see). Thank you for supporting me. Now I don't feel inappropriate. I blocked the ones who made me feel that way.
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Weapons or Weaponry is the entire set of Arms, whereas Guns, is a subset of said class. So although all guns can be considered weapons, not all weapons are guns. As others have said, knives, swords, etc.
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CDR Kenneth Kaiser
To get down to the basics it is similar to the "all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares" Just a miscellaneous bit of flotsam that I remember in my old age. Very seldom have a chance to use it. Probably inappropriate at some level
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SPC Margaret Higgins
A very simple and basic, easy-to-understand truism; CDR Kenneth Kaiser. Thank you very much.
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Gun is a type of weapon, sword is also a weapon. Like a car, plane truck and train are all types of vehicles. Thats the way I see it anyway.
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SPC Margaret Higgins
I understand now, SFC (Join to see). Thank you for clearing that up for me.
And a huge, big THANK YOU for your service and your sacrifices.
-Margaret
And a huge, big THANK YOU for your service and your sacrifices.
-Margaret
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Like others responding to this, I'm assuming that by "weapons" you are referring to firearms: Rifles, pistols, et al. In the broadest sense all are guns.
gun
ɡən/
noun
1.
a weapon incorporating a metal tube from which bullets, shells, or other missiles are propelled by explosive force, typically making a characteristic loud, sharp noise.
synonyms: firearm, pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun, carbine, automatic, handgun, semiautomatic, machine gun, Uzi; More
However, "gun" is too imprecise for military or police use. Thus, those who work with "guns" tend to use more descriptive terms. Knowing what you are up against can save lives.
gun
ɡən/
noun
1.
a weapon incorporating a metal tube from which bullets, shells, or other missiles are propelled by explosive force, typically making a characteristic loud, sharp noise.
synonyms: firearm, pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun, carbine, automatic, handgun, semiautomatic, machine gun, Uzi; More
However, "gun" is too imprecise for military or police use. Thus, those who work with "guns" tend to use more descriptive terms. Knowing what you are up against can save lives.
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SPC Margaret Higgins
Thank you, CPT Jack Durish. You gave me, and all of us, a very detailed and clear response.
The reason I asked this question was because I knew that we always called them weapons in the military (Army); and never called them guns. If I had known all of what you know, I would have had no need to ask this question.
Again, thank you.
The reason I asked this question was because I knew that we always called them weapons in the military (Army); and never called them guns. If I had known all of what you know, I would have had no need to ask this question.
Again, thank you.
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I consider all "guns" to be Weapons, because they still fall under the category of being Weapons. I, personally, find the word "guns" to just be used to classify the type of weapon, but it is commonly used in the Media as something used to terrorize people, which is why I don't like the use of the word "gun". To sum up, Weapons are, by definition, "A weapon, arm, or armament is any device used with intent to inflict damage or harm to living beings, structures, or systems.", but "guns are just a lower classification of a TYPE of weapon. By calling all weapons "guns", you are making yourself seem rather naive.
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SGM Erik Marquez
WO1 (Join to see) "I consider all "guns" to be Weapons.."
As do many people, and in general terms that might not be worng, but it's not absolute and definitive either.
Look at the definition...
Something (such as a gun, knife, club, or bomb) that is used for fighting or attacking someone or for defending yourself when someone is attacking you.
Strictly speaking and riding the razor edge.. a gun is ONLY a weapon IF it is used as one. If it is shooting paper, sitting in a display case, I don't see it as a weapon. Just like I don't see a ball point pen as a weapon, but know for sure it can be used as one.
Common sense and general understanding would lead one to think that and I get it.
As do many people, and in general terms that might not be worng, but it's not absolute and definitive either.
Look at the definition...
Something (such as a gun, knife, club, or bomb) that is used for fighting or attacking someone or for defending yourself when someone is attacking you.
Strictly speaking and riding the razor edge.. a gun is ONLY a weapon IF it is used as one. If it is shooting paper, sitting in a display case, I don't see it as a weapon. Just like I don't see a ball point pen as a weapon, but know for sure it can be used as one.
Common sense and general understanding would lead one to think that and I get it.
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i'm am applolgizing in advance go to the movie platoon " this is my weapon this my gun one is for pleasure and one is for fun" but to be more correct guns are artillery and naval where weapons are what you persopnnally carry into combat
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SGT Jimmy Carpenter
That line was from Full Metal Jacket. It may have also been used in Platoon but I'm not sure.
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While there have been many definitions posted here about what constitutes a 'gun', we need to also define 'weapon.' I offer the inclusion of propaganda as a weapon. The saying "The pen is mightier than the sword" can be true in many cases. Media such as print and broadcast(Hanoi Hannah, Tokyo Rose) can be used as weapons too.
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