Posted on Apr 4, 2018
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And here's why I say that: what's the first thing we do when we identify a soldier as a mental health hazard? *TAKE THEIR WEAPON AWAY.*
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Sgt Aaron Cook
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Why aren't military/ veterans the first to advocate not having your rights taken away without due process? And I don't mean you get to appeal to get them back, I mean innocent until proven guilty.
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MSgt Arvin Stott
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Simple answer is to require all to be armed. Yes, I know there are those who shouldn't be allowed near a firearm as they will hurt themselves. The thing is now whenever I see commonsense gun safety all that means is someone is attempting to justify infringing on my rights. Gun control is never about safety, it is always about others trying to control you.
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MAJ Lyle F. Padilla
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Most of my military career was in the Guard or Reserve, and during that period I had a simultaneous career as a school psychologist.

Now, a school psychologist's primary function is to act as the gateway to Special Education, by evaluating students for learning disabilities and emotional disturbance, determining eligibility for Special Ed and, if eligible, the most appropriate educational setting in concert with teachers, other school professionals and the student's parents. And upon a student's placement in Special Ed, acting as case manager to continue determining eligibility and placement. A pretty benign, innocuous sounding job. As a school psychologist, I was certified by and acted as an agent for the State. Not just literally the State of New Jersey where I lived and worked, but State as in The Government.

The greatest stress of the job, however, was the pressure from school principals and other administrators to take students out of regular mainstream class settings and place them in Special Ed, especially in classes for the Emotionally Disturbed (and especially class settings in another building or out of the district altogether), when the students are NOT ACTUALLY clinically eligible, or such placement was at best questionable. This was often done for the convenience of the principal or other administrator or teacher, simply because the student pissed off one of those professionals one time too many. School psychologists and other Special Services professionals are technically employees of the state but are hired by the individuals districts and normally housed in offices within the specific school buildings they service, so even though we don't answer to the building principal, the principal cane make working conditions very miserable when we don't bend to their whims, especially getting rid of the "bad" kids. That's the greatest reason why I retired from that career of the very first day I was eligible.

Now consider the fact that psychologists, social workers and psychiatrists who conduct mental health screenings for gun ownership would ALSO be licensed by and acting as agents for The State, subjected to the same coercions by The State for the convenience of The State.
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LTC Andrew Addison
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Well...what about those that are diagnosed with ptsd? That's why vets will not support stricter requirements. I suggest that they just enforce the rules and laws that already are in place
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PO1 Charles Babcock
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in my case, because the liberal press and those pushing the liberal agenda have already tried to dictate that all military vets were not competent to handle weapons. I refuse to accept anyone's decision for mass screenings controlled by non-military persons for military vets gun rights.
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SGT Charles Ludwigsen
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Why stop there? Addictions often mask deeper psychological issues. Why don’t we screen and deny rights of anyone we deem prone to addiction?

I don’t know if you posed this as a serious question or not. But why draw the line at the second amendment? Shouldn’t you be screened, according to your logic, before you are allowed to exercise your first amendment right of speech?

Ludicrous! As is this question. As a nation, under the constitution, we have no right to pre-judge. That is why you do not have to pass a test to exercise your right.
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TSgt Michael Williamson
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Because we took an oath to support the Constitution, not to create an oligarchy with class levels.
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SSgt Ed Hamlin
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Edited 7 y ago
Current laws provide individuals with legal remedies. If they day in court say they have to transfer or surrender until the judgment has been relieved is appropriate. What is not appropriate is anyone and their brother with an axe to grind can infringe on your constitutional rights due to the pandering by democrats to the deceived populous to institute laws that are unjust and unconstitutional. Those laws violate due process provided for under the constitution.

Ultimately registration is what it is and used by regimes like Hitler used registration. Also just because you see someone in mental health doesn't mean your not capable of keeping your rights under the constitution.
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CPO Cory Cook
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In the case of a military member who has documented problems (ptsd, and the like) or a bad conduct discharge, I think there may be a legit reason. However, before a military member is just cast off (there you go dude, on your own with your problems, no help from here) they should receive the care they deserve. It probably not be prudent to cast them off after they have had the training to make them dangerous if unstable. Counterpoint, military members should not be treated any different than civilians just because some h8r politico has an agenda or pretend fear.
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LCDR Bruce Cooley
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Because "they're" using this to get even more deeply into our personal lives by using the extreme to manage the normal. First, like a lot of the respondents, I am a 2nd Amendment supporter. Second, most of these laws are meant to appease a vocal minority and blind the apathetic majority with BS. Thirdly, why are they looking at "gun ownership" when Doctors kill more patients than guns do?? Just to throw a weird curve ball into the mix....lets look at the "demographic" make up of "gun crimes".......IF you look at it a certain way, it could be said that these individuals pushing for more gun control are trying to disarm our minority (Non-white) population! So....what really is this proposed regulation really aimed at??? To give the govt. more power over you (In direct opposition to what the Constitutions Framers intended) and their ability to take away your power resist should that time ever come.
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